phat trev Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Anyone here know the US Carriers that had the FJ-4 and FJ-4B operating on them? Looking for some inspiration for the 1/72 Emhar jet I am currently building. There are some good images of Wingpallet.com which keep popping up in google searches and tempted to finish it as operating from USS Bonhomme Richard or if they flew from the USS Intrepid this would be great as I visited the museum a few years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 I found my VA-55 FURY info here. http://www.seaforces.org/ It has pretty detailed cruise info on the all navies. Go to the CV/CVA section. Then look up your ships and compare info to known Fury squadrons. VA-55 flew off USS Bennington in 57-58 in case you're curious ? Dennis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 16 hours ago, phat trev said: Anyone here know the US Carriers that had the FJ-4 and FJ-4B operating on them? Looking for some inspiration for the 1/72 Emhar jet I am currently building. There are some good images of Wingpallet.com which keep popping up in google searches and tempted to finish it as operating from USS Bonhomme Richard or if they flew from the USS Intrepid this would be great as I visited the museum a few years back. Remember Trevor that the assigned carrier doesn't completely follow the unit, or is it the other way around. Therefore you need to decide your unit and carrier The best reference is the book by Steve Ginter - Naval Air Fighters Number 25. I hope that helps a little ... Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 All FJ-4s were used by USMC units from land bases. The only US Navy unit operating this variant was VA-126, a RAG training squadron that did not deploy on carriers (but aircraft from these units often train on carriers when required). The FJ-4B on the other hand was used by several USN units that deployed on carriers. Regarding the two you're mo interested in, VA-192 flew FJ-4Bs from USS Bon Homme Richard between November 1958 and June 1959 as part of CVG-19: Tail code was NM and the modex numbers were in the 2xx range. VA-192 Furies aborad Bon Homme Richard had very simple markings, with just a yellow band on the fin. This means that such a model may not be the most exciting in terms of colours but at the same time makes sorting the markings much easier 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT7567 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 If you want to match aircraft types to a specific carrier, the gonavy.jp site is an excellent resource. Unfortunately you can't do a comprehensive search by aircraft type, only by carrier or air group, but between this site and seasforces.org you can pretty well nail down units, aircraft types, and ships for a given cruise. CV-31 Bon Homme Richard: http://www.gonavy.jp/CV-CV31f.html CV-11 Intrepid: http://www.gonavy.jp/CV-CV11f.html It looks like Intrepid only operated the FJ-3, never any FJ-4/FJ-4Bs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 USS Intrepid spent all her life as a post-refit attack carrier with the Atlantic Fleet, whille for a number of reasons all FJ-4B equipped units served with the Pacific Fleet. For this reason no FJ-4B unit flew from Intrepid. The carrier was moved to the CVS role in 1962, again with the Atlantic Fleet. Later she moved to the Pacific and served in Vietnam but by then all Furies had been passed in reserve (in 1962) and then retired ( around 1965). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenshirt Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) VA-63 operated the FJ-4B on Midway. The Redcocks did not operate the Fury for long, only making the one deployment before transitioning to the Skyhawk. Edit: only one deployment. Edited September 28, 2019 by Greenshirt Correct info. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phat trev Posted November 28, 2023 Author Share Posted November 28, 2023 Thanks for the post on this guys, just picking this FJ-4B project up after a few years 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin-42 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 4 hours ago, phat trev said: Thanks for the post on this guys, just picking this FJ-4B project up after a few years 🙄 Never give up, I like your attitude. The Detail and Scale book has excellent info including what improvements can to be made to the Emhar Fury. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 If you want something different, at the 2:16 mark of this video is a Fury lofting a practice Mk-7 nuke: https://catalog.archives.gov/id/81266 there are a couple of other scenes with a Fury in the video. Jari 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phat trev Posted November 29, 2023 Author Share Posted November 29, 2023 10 hours ago, Robin-42 said: Never give up, I like your attitude. The Detail and Scale book has excellent info including what improvements can to be made to the Emhar Fury. Have been considering that, looks good. Might look for an online pdf version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin-42 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 12 minutes ago, phat trev said: Have been considering that, looks good. Might look for an online pdf version. All I get are the digital versions now. They usually have more photo’s, and you can zoom in on them. I keep my iPad at the desk on a holder. The price is cheap enough that I even buy the one about types I am not particularly interested in! https://www.detailandscale.com/detail-scale-publications Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 13 hours ago, Robin-42 said: including what improvements can to be made to the Emhar Fury. perfect for one of my potential plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tempestfan Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 I second the current D&S, I have the full range, and consider them excellent VfM, as I think their price is most competitive for what they offer. Granted, the paper is not as good as before, but they are around 50% larger than the "Mk II" range. Only criticism I have is that the reviews tend to be a tad "wordy" in e.g. the Demon volume, where one has the impression a couple of pages had to be filled. Conversely, I think the Tomcat could easily have filled two volumes, similar for the B-24/PB4Y. A real bonus over the older series are the stores and pylon drawings by Jim Rotramel, with extremely detailed dimensions And yes, I took the deliberate decision to continue buying paper. Spending 50+ hours per week before a screen, I have no desire of reading aircraft books there, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 2 hours ago, tempestfan said: Spending 50+ hours per week before a screen, I have no desire of reading aircraft books there, too. This. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 26 minutes ago, Hook said: This. Did you mean to link something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 7 hours ago, phat trev said: Have been considering that, looks good. Might look for an online pdf version. I hope you mean purchase on online version. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin-42 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 2 hours ago, gingerbob said: I hope you mean purchase on online version. Totally agree, in fact if you find PDF’s report them to Bert Kenzie. He has really good lawyers! It takes a lot of work to properly research and write these references that we are so fond of, the authors deserve our respect by paying for them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin-42 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 5 hours ago, Hook said: This. I like physical books too, but I am in danger of being one of those library’s that enters other dimensions. I totally get the thrill of turning off a screen that you have been chained to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 7 hours ago, Robin-42 said: Totally agree, in fact if you find PDF’s report them to Bert Kenzie. He has really good lawyers! It takes a lot of work to properly research and write these references that we are so fond of, the authors deserve our respect by paying for them. I think the publisher deserves the respect of getting his name right too...? 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin-42 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 6 hours ago, Sabrejet said: I think the publisher deserves the respect of getting his name right too...? 😉 Corrected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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