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Litvyak "White Rose of Stalingrad" future movie

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Let's hope there will be a version with English sub titles, it is a great story, let's hope the movie is worthy of it.

Steve.

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2 hours ago, stevehnz said:

Let's hope there will be a version with English sub titles, it is a great story, let's hope the movie is worthy of it.

Steve.

Hopfully i think there will be subtitles,i've got White Tiger and a couple of other Russian war films and they all have them....Just as long as it isn't dubbed into English....

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11 hours ago, stevehnz said:

Let's hope there will be a version with English sub titles, it is a great story, let's hope the movie is worthy of it.

 

8 hours ago, Vince1159 said:

Hopfully i think there will be subtitles,i've got White Tiger and a couple of other Russian war films and they all have them....Just as long as it isn't dubbed into English....

"Litvyak" it's movie from the creators

  "28 Panfilov's man":

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panfilov's_28_Men

 

As many film critics note, from the point of view of the "rivet counter" the film "Litvyak" will be at the highest level of reliability, but war movie it's not only "rivet", it's a story & plot.  Will the filmmakers manage to make a good plot, there are some doubts.

 

B.R.

Serge

 

P.S.

8 hours ago, Vince1159 said:

White Tiger

I think David Lynch and his "Twin Peaks" were very much influenced on Karen Shahnazarov, director "White Tiger" movie.

 

P.P.S. Lidiya Litvyak was shot down over the Donbass and buried in a mass grave which is located in 99,6 km from Donetsk.

 

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Ura! B)

People can keep their Hollywood blockbusters.

I'd see this without any translation. ;)

2021. I hope they can get it done!

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On 9/27/2019 at 5:37 PM, Aardvark said:

As many film critics note, from the point of view of the "rivet counter" the film "Litvyak" will be at the highest level of reliability, but war movie it's not only "rivet", it's a story & plot.  Will the filmmakers manage to make a good plot, there are some doubts.

 

After seeing most latest Russian war-epics, I also have my doubts. Plot-wise, 90% of their movie production nowadays are just shallow melodrama schlock; over-saturated with CGI, out-of-period Instagram-babes and propaganda.

Look no further than "Stalingrad" (2013), where most "action scenes" (although technically well executed) convey no true emotion whatsoever about the true scale of events and the suffering of all involved.

And some scenes, like Soviet soldiers running towards nazi MGs WHILE ON FIRE, or those two people managing to move themselves away from the path of a slo-mo grenade, are just... well, dumb.

 

Don't get me started on that ship scene at the end of "Battle of Sevastopol" (2015), or its "love aspect"...

 

That said, I would also love to see the Litvyak story done in a respectful and intelligent manner.

 

 

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On 9/30/2019 at 11:06 AM, warhawk said:

After seeing most latest Russian war-epics, I also have my doubts. Plot-wise, 90% of their movie production nowadays are just shallow melodrama schlock; over-saturated with CGI, out-of-period Instagram-babes and propaganda.

No good plot. Good plot no because no good education. No good education because children see movie with bad plot were many 3-d, action but no plot! Children grow up becoming directors and make films with a bad plot. Vicious circle.

 Hypertrophied?  Yes of course!  But the general meaning of the process is somewhere like this. It's global trend.

On 9/30/2019 at 11:06 AM, warhawk said:

Look no further than "Stalingrad" (2013), where most "action scenes" (although technically well executed) convey no true emotion whatsoever about the true scale of events and the suffering of all involved.

And some scenes, like Soviet soldiers running towards nazi MGs WHILE ON FIRE, or those two people managing to move themselves away from the path of a slo-mo grenade, are just... well, dumb.

 Fedor Bondarchuk? 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fyodor_Bondarchuk

this is the case when the proverb "Nature rests on the children of geniuses" justifies itself by all 146%!

See article about his father Sergei Bondarchuk:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Bondarchuk

and You understand my!

Best actor work (not director) Fedor Bondarchuk was

Myshkin in Down House: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Down_House_(film) modern adaptation "Idiot" Fedor Dostoevsky, 

but there actually Bondarchuk Jr. played himself.

Do you really think that such a director would have a good film about Stalingrad?

In fact most Russian movie have plot from......old Soviet movie but without Soviet ideology, socialism any mention of Lenin / Stalin pluses political correctness.....as a result of the Lark :

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lark_(1965_film)

turns T-34:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-34_(film)

From blackish, absurd and deceitful "Afghan Breakdown"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghan_Breakdown

even more deceitful, idiotic (but without large-scale battle scenes)

"Leaving Afghanistan"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaving_Afghanistan

e.t.c.

I am waiting with horror when they will replace  my beloved, and probably the best (but absolutely no modern) Soviet film about 2WW Soviet pilots "Torpedo bombers" (1983):

https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Торпедоносцы_(фильм)

Attack convoy: 

Movie.The end:

 

B.R.

Serge

 

 

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On ‎9‎/‎28‎/‎2019 at 1:22 PM, Vince1159 said:

What's that....

It's a place where everything is possible but reality.

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New video. Movie w.i.p.:

Story about making cockpit Yak-1 for this move. In video autor talk only about two found live Yak-1 in world on Zadorozhniy museum & Saratov museum.  

In my opinion he is mistaken, it seems to me another Yak-1 is being restored in the UK?

Otherwise, the video is understandable and without translation.

 

B.R.

Serge

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I have to wonder how they'll treat her- legend is never reality, and from what I've read, she was not universally popular among her fellow pilots, regardless of their sex.

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14 hours ago, Rob G said:

I have to wonder how they'll treat her- legend is never reality, and from what I've read, she was not universally popular among her fellow pilots, regardless of their sex.

At the beginning of the video, this guy said: “We thought that Soviet planes were not German tanks, there are Soviet planes in every museum. Then we found out that there were only two live Yak-1s!”  Those,  they did not even know the real state of affairs with the safety of Soviet aircraft of the 2WW period!😲

But they still built a new cockpit according to the original technical documentation.  Here, as I understand it, the film consultants played a decisive role, it seems to me that at least one of the consultants is a modeler!

But what the scenario line will be, one can only guess .... As I think, 🤔 everything will be fine ..... or everything will be bad.

🤗

B.R.

Serge

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On ‎10‎/‎22‎/‎2019 at 2:44 AM, Rob G said:

I have to wonder how they'll treat her- legend is never reality, and from what I've read, she was not universally popular among her fellow pilots, regardless of their sex.

I don't suppose popularity was the most important thing, being good at her job was.  After all, Guy Gibson was not the most popular member of the Royal Air Force, notwithstanding Richard Todd's sympathetic performance, but he was an outstandingly brave man.

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