Scooby Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 On 12/10/2019 at 3:38 AM, Albeback52 said: I don't personally think the choice of version will make much difference. Herc fans will surely buy it anyway?With so many variants to choose from, I would not be surprised if this was the merely the first in a range of C-130 kits. Patience my friend!😊 I would actually like the original A version with the "roman" nose or, one of the stretched variants! Too many times to mention however, may I respectfully suggest that one substitutes "latest" or "current" for "lesser"? I know it's arguing over semantics but, I think that versions like the MC-130 Combat Talon and, RC-130 might be more appropriately be deemed "lesser"?😉😊( no less important though but,maybe Just not so well known?) Just me of course but, I think it only natural that the current production version be chosen for the first kit! Allan The J isn’t flown by 69 different nations. The earlier E & H models were.  The stretch J isn’t flown by many nations. Not many color options either.  I served on E & H models. Lots of decal and color options. Also civil options for another nine operators.  Herc fans have asked for a long time for a new tool Hercules and the pulse of the community has been asking for a E & H.  Huge error tooling a J model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albeback52 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Scooby said:   Huge error tooling a J model. Fair enough. I guess we will have to agree to differ. The manufacturer will not have chosen this version without good reason so, I guess time will tell who was right. C-130 fans now have a long overdue, brand new kit to look forward to. If they choose not to buy because of the choice of version, that's their prerogative and I will not presume to debate otherwise I would suggest a lot of modellers won't be that bothered and will buy it anyway simply because its a new Herc    Allan Edited December 13, 2019 by Albeback52 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie894 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 I can’t wait for this release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Apart from the engines and the single, rather than two cheek windows, what other mods need to be done to mod a J into the equivalent E, H or K model?  Trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milli21 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Max Headroom said: Apart from the engines and the single, rather than two cheek windows, what other mods need to be done to mod a J into the equivalent E, H or K model?  Trevor Aerial fit. Different position of refuel probe between K and J. Shape of para door windows. The K had a GTC instead of an apu so different sponson on the undercarriage. External tanks. Various defensive aids bits and pieces differ between K and J. And the air con units on the RHS. Nothing major really other than engines and props. Cant think of much more off the top of my head.  Adam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Alpha Yankee Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 The E and K (and some early Hs) had shorter main under carriage sponsons forward of the main wheel well. In 1/72 scale that equates it about 5mm shorter sponson length.  The E - H also have 4 small square windows just in front of and below the instrument panel, on the J 2 of theses are blocked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 20 hours ago, Max Headroom said: Apart from the engines and the single, rather than two cheek windows, what other mods need to be done to mod a J into the equivalent E, H or K model?  Trevor Wouldn’t be too hard had they not decided to tool the stretch version.  I was hoping if they tooled a J they wouldn’t tool a stretch, there are aftermarket resin engines that I am certain would fit with modifications to backdate to an H. An E would be a little more work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 On 12/13/2019 at 3:22 AM, Albeback52 said: Fair enough. I guess we will have to agree to differ. The manufacturer will not have chosen this version without good reason so, I guess time will tell who was right. C-130 fans now have a long overdue, brand new kit to look forward to. If they choose not to buy because of the choice of version, that's their prerogative and I will not presume to debate otherwise I would suggest a lot of modellers won't be that bothered and will buy it anyway simply because its a new Herc    Allan Those of us who worked the Herc put a lot of blood, sweat, and tears into her. She is still my first love despite finishing my career on CF-18s.  I’ve been on J models although I never crewed them. No attachment to them for me. I earned my keep on E &H models. Recently my son flew in the cockpit of an H model that I did the acceptance check from Lockheed, Georgia in 1990. I’d love to model that serial number. She was my girl.  When I said I was disappointed a J  model was being tooled I should re-phrase that, I was heartbroken.  An E or H offers modelers a lot of color and nationality options, a J offers us gray, gray, and gray.  4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain goat Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) A quick look at Zvezda's past release strategy (see Su-27 and MiG-29) suggests they prefer to start with newer versions, and only after a short while other more representative versions. I don't believe they will have made the investment for such big subject and kit only to be a one trick pony. Other versions are very probably worked on as we speak. Â Jay Edited December 16, 2019 by Mountain goat Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Alpha Yankee Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Scooby said: Wouldn’t be too hard had they not decided to tool the stretch version.  I was hoping if they tooled a J they wouldn’t tool a stretch, there are aftermarket resin engines that I am certain would fit with modifications to backdate to an H. An E would be a little more work. The dimension with one of the images suggests a normal length aircraft, the image supplied is incorrect for the supplied length of 38.5cm, as per one of my previous posts the stretched fuselage should be closer to 48cm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 18 hours ago, Romeo Alpha Yankee said: The dimension with one of the images suggests a normal length aircraft, the image supplied is incorrect for the supplied length of 38.5cm, as per one of my previous posts the stretched fuselage should be closer to 48cm. Those dimensions are close to a standard length Herc, the image definitely represents a stretch. If it is a standard length kit I can totally convert that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokeyr67 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I’ll be happy with a stretch J, or an A, H, E etc, as long as it’s reasonably accurate and well engineered.  Even if it’s a ), a little bit of whiffed will turn it from plain old gray into a nice bright and shiny red and yellow water bomber or something similar, so I’m not worried about suffering from the dreaded J gray syndrome 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalea Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Who needs accuracy, anyway? Tell 'em it's an egg plane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Korachkin Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Zvezda has finally tackled the task of modelling NATO aircraft most popular outside of Russia. If that is going to be a new mould it is expected to be a good one. The most recent kits of Zvezda are very much attractive and worth buying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokeyr67 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 On 12/17/2019 at 6:06 PM, dalea said: Who needs accuracy, anyway? Tell 'em it's an egg plane. Just surround it with red lines, that’ll keep the rivet counters happy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger331 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 On 12/16/2019 at 9:00 AM, Mountain goat said: A quick look at Zvezda's past release strategy (see Su-27 and MiG-29) suggests they prefer to start with newer versions, and only after a short while other more representative versions. I don't believe they will have made the investment for such big subject and kit only to be a one trick pony. Other versions are very probably worked on as we speak. Â Jay Agree, Â Zvedza kits are one of the most prolific brands available in my (current) local hobby store and, as my co-respondent states, it does not normally take them long to reproduce other variants. The C-130H/K is my preferred choice too, having spent thousands of hours operating them but I am happy with the -J too and, if push comes to shove, can convert if necessary. Â 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albeback52 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 On 12/17/2019 at 4:47 AM, Smokeyr67 said: I’ll be happy with a stretch J, or an A, H, E etc, as long as it’s reasonably accurate and well engineered.  Even if it’s a ), a little bit of whiffed will turn it from plain old gray into a nice bright and shiny red and yellow water bomber or something similar, so I’m not worried about suffering from the dreaded J gray syndrome . Lots of potential! Particularly the old RAF sand/stone /black finish. I have another idea for a J in a 4 tone green /green/tan/black splinter camouflage finish. However, price will be the determining factor. I don't think the DWP regard inability to afford models as necessarily a priority! 😉😂 Allan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, Albeback52 said: . Lots of potential! Particularly the old RAF sand/stone /black finish. I have another idea for a J in a 4 tone green /green/tan/black splinter camouflage finish. If you want to be really different, there’s the unique W.2 or even the delivery scheme of overall natural metal.  Trevor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branky Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Just had contact with Zvezda and they confirmed : "we will release the C-130 H Unfortunately no Dutch decals planned - but we have not yet made final decision."  Does not say if it will be long H-30 but that is commercial not so interesting So i put my money on a short one But i will keep on pushing for Dutch markings!!, After all we operate both long and short versions 🙂  2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain goat Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 48 minutes ago, Branky said: Just had contact with Zvezda and they confirmed : "we will release the C-130 H So that's kind of official then. The H will appear, probably in due course and probably after the J. I hope their H will have the short sponsons though. The longer ones were only introduced after 1974 so that limits modellers' choice a bit.  Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albeback52 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) On 12/19/2019 at 7:32 AM, Max Headroom said: If you want to be really different, there’s the unique W.2 or even the delivery scheme of overall natural metal.  Trevor  I had intended to build a 1/72 A-400 as a W2 but, a  130J will do just as well  Allan  Edited December 20, 2019 by Albeback52 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedyGonzales Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 A fresh tooled Herc is always welcome in any scale, but I'd rather have it in 48th to replace the Italeri kit. So many details could be achieved on such a kit with today's tooling approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton K55 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 So it official - 1/72 -New tool Lockheed C-130H Hercules by Zvezda Mr Homebee you can correct topic name 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branky Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Still time 😉 the kit is for September release! No decision on the decals yet… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 On 12/20/2019 at 2:21 AM, Branky said: Just had contact with Zvezda and they confirmed : "we will release the C-130 H Unfortunately no Dutch decals planned - but we have not yet made final decision."  Does not say if it will be long H-30 but that is commercial not so interesting So i put my money on a short one But i will keep on pushing for Dutch markings!!, After all we operate both long and short versions 🙂  Awesome news, this is my Holy Grail!  I’ll be buying several to start! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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