Homebee Posted March 15, 2020 Author Share Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) Test model: https://vk.com/zvezdamodels?w=wall-29859496_2552228 https://www.facebook.com/Zvezda.ModelKits/posts/2235620013207457 V.P. Edited March 15, 2020 by Homebee 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted March 15, 2020 Author Share Posted March 15, 2020 Pre-order at LM https://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=ZVE-4823 V.P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold55 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 This is what I like about Zvezda, their products actually fit and the prices are very reasonable. I don't really need another Hind for my collection but at this price it is going in the cart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas V. Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Cannot see from the pics, but seems there are no rivets on the kit(positive and negative), if true, big disappointment, since their last 48th scale kit Pe-2 has superb surface detail. If one of our Russian colleagues could shed more light would be much obliged.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 46 minutes ago, Harold55 said: This is what I like about Zvezda, their products actually fit and the prices are very reasonable. I don't really need another Hind for my collection but at this price it is going in the cart. you do not need.... but you probably want to build / have a good one! that at least is the case her with me .... so actually I need one each! (V, P, D and -35M )...it really is an impressive maschine.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotey Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Thomas V. said: Cannot see from the pics, but seems there are no rivets on the kit(positive and negative), if true, big disappointment, since their last 48th scale kit Pe-2 has superb surface detail. If one of our Russian colleagues could shed more light would be much obliged.... No riverts, only paneles lines. Edited March 16, 2020 by kotey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ka-Efka Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 hour ago, kotey said: No riverts, only paneles lines. For me that's good news! Sold my Zvezda Pe-2 because I really disliked all the holes. Adding missing ones is much easier than getting rid of them. Raised rivets where appropriate would've been nice though. But, nonetheless, I think I'm going to be really happy with this kit 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stakor Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I wonder whether it's a mistake of the person who did this model... The AI-9 bulb is for the Mi-24A and Mi-24D versions. For Mi-24V/VP and P it's smooth. In their 1/72 kits there were two separate parts for those versions. And here this part is green so should be replacement. However this and lack of diffuser rings are another confirmation at least Mi-24A is coming :D.version. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopkp Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 13 hours ago, kotey said: No rivets, only panel lines. Excellent news as far as I'm concerned at least, I absolutely HATE rivet detail on models, raised or recessed.....though I know there are other views! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudikoff Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) Personally, no rivets on a Hind in is pretty much a no-go for me in this day and age and especially in this scale, given how the raised rivets are so prominent on the surface of the real thing. I understand they'd likely be over-scale, but still. On the other hand, at least they didn't make them recessed, but I guess I'm waiting to see what KH comes up with (which hopefully won't be recessed ones like on their recent UH-1 kits). Edited March 17, 2020 by Dudikoff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocoolname Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Rivet Rivet Rivet Rivet... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon V Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Obviously it's a very bare bones build to show off the kit, but it does look very toy like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas V. Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) I asked because on the real helicopter they are highly pronounced as majority are positive, and on the front fuselage there aren't so many,if Hasegawa made AH-64 with almost all rivets almost 20 years ago!!, and properly captured all the small detail, in 2020 ( after providing excellent kits in 48th scale without skimping on detail-La-5/Yak-130/Pe-2), Mi-24 with smooth surfaces in 48th scale big👎 Edited March 17, 2020 by Thomas V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 Source: https://vk.com/wall-29859496?own=1&w=wall-29859496_2553002 V.P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) Announced for sale late this month. Source: https://vk.com/wall-29859496?own=1&w=wall-29859496_2553002 Quote Box and test build for our new Mi-24V/VP kit in 1/48 scale are ready! On sale from the end of this month! V.P. Edited March 17, 2020 by Homebee 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold55 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 21 hours ago, Simon V said: Obviously it's a very bare bones build to show off the kit, but it does look very toy like. I think it looks toy-like because there is no weathering. It is factory fresh and shinny which does give it that look. A good weathering job I think will bring it to life. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnl42 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 As noted above, this is a good 1/48 kit! The Revellogram was ok all things considered, but it has been woefully inadequate for quite a while now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocoolname Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 3 hours ago, dnl42 said: As noted above, this is a good 1/48 kit! The Revellogram was ok all things considered, but it has been woefully inadequate for quite a while now. Wot he said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCZ Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Zvezda´s small scale Hind was "humped and warped" - as real helicopter. I can´t wait for 1/48. But i can´t understand why haven´t rivets.... I must hope for GWH rivet decals.... But is gorgeous, we have after forty years complet new HIND Kit. And in decals is CZAF machine ! :) Niiiice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonlanceHR Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Rivets are a case of "damned if you do, damned if you don't". Can't really blame any manufacturer for omitting them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ka-Efka Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 3 hours ago, dragonlanceHR said: Rivets are a case of "damned if you do, damned if you don't". Can't really blame any manufacturer for omitting them. True! Though, still: Removeing raised rivets: relatively easy Adding recessed rivets: very easy Removing recessed rivets: cumbersome / hard Adding raised rivets: hard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haneto Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1. More rivets means more expensive on mold investment and also time consuming. Then price will have to be increased. 2. Especially in modern CAD mold cutting technics, raised rivets are even more expensive than recessed rivets to be made on molds. Guess that's the main reasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojtek2 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 32 minutes ago, haneto said: 1. More rivets means more expensive on mold investment and also time consuming. Then price will have to be increased. ........ This is true, but it can be said about the various desirable features of modern kits. In addition, the lack of rivets leaves room for improvement for a potential competitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stakor Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 True - it's cheaper without rivets but also it's easier to make Hind model in different versions without rivets as there are differences between V and A/D on which there is no structural reinforcement as on V's tail. The tail in the 1/72 model is for the V version (in both Mi-24V and Mi-24A) and we can assume in 1/48 it will be the same. Converting it to the A / D version is easier but only because there are no rivets. The only problem is that if you do it correctly - almost nobody notice the difference ;P Mi-24V 729, Mi-24D 459 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas V. Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 All true and fair regarding tooling costs increase due to complexity of surfaces, but we are in 2020, price of tooling has dropped radically in the last 15+years. Even more so if you have in house tooling manufacturing ( as Zvezda does) As for rivets on Mi-24, they are highly pronounced/large on some parts of the fuselage ( especially armor connections ) and should have been represented in 48th scale. Have no doubt that we'll have first accurate Hind in mentioned scale but If taking into account Hasegawa's Apache, Airfix Lynx, and Revell's small Sea King, not the way forward, at least in my opinion. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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