Dave Fleming Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 15 hours ago, king of men said: I'd certainly be up for a Battle. The MPM one just didn't cut it for me; overengineered and the fit was pretty bad. And woefully inaccurate. An Arma Battle to the standard of their Hurricane would be amazing. A Hawk 75 would be interesting, although the AZ kit ticked that box for me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaCee26 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Dave Fleming said: And woefully inaccurate. An Arma Battle to the standard of their Hurricane would be amazing. A Hawk 75 would be interesting, although the AZ kit ticked that box for me Hi Dave, Your mileage may vary but IMHO AZ Hawk 75A fuselage is hopelessly too narrow. Certainly no room for a Twin Waasp inside and rear fuselage remembering more like a flat fish than one of the Curtiss's masterpieces... Cheers, AaCee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of men Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 7 hours ago, Dave Fleming said: And woefully inaccurate. An Arma Battle to the standard of their Hurricane would be amazing. A Hawk 75 would be interesting, although the AZ kit ticked that box for me Detail inaccuracy is not a big point for me, but unbuildability certainly is. That MPM kit was just a mess as far as that goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojtek2 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 16 hours ago, Dave Fleming said: ... An Arma Battle to the standard of their Hurricane would be amazing. ..... Hurricane standard is passé 😀: http://armahobbynews.pl/en/blog/2019/10/10/yak-made-a-huge-difference/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 10 hours ago, Wojtek2 said: Hurricane standard is passé 😀: http://armahobbynews.pl/en/blog/2019/10/10/yak-made-a-huge-difference/ I don’t like all those rivets! 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojtek2 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) There are concave and convex rivets on the model - just cut off the convex ones, paste upside down in place of the concave and voila. Over 3000 pcs. as they write in the blog 😀. Sorry for the off top. Edited October 12, 2019 by Wojtek2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Wojtek2 said: There are concave and convex rivets on the model - just cut off the convex ones, paste upside down in place of the concave and voila. Over 3000 pcs. Humanity has long invented putty & sandpaper for modeller's! But this easy way 😁....maybe best way use 3d printing for high-precision filling out concave rivets and cutting laser complex for convex rivets? 😁😁😁 B.R. Serge 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaCee26 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 On 10/11/2019 at 1:34 PM, Wojtek2 said: Hurricane standard is passé 😀: http://armahobbynews.pl/en/blog/2019/10/10/yak-made-a-huge-difference/ Wow! A beautiful-looking kit! Only a couple of things make me to wonder a bit: - Is the wing tip shape really so "Spitfireish"? I'm away from my references and my picture search didn't give me certainty. What do John Thompson say? - Rear fuselage fabric covering is really petite. I wish to see it painted before saying more about it but in contrast tail ribbing seems to be on a bit heavy side. Welcome and certainly filling a big gap in models of the VVS. Cheers, AaCee 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thompson Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Thanks for the vote of confidence; no, the wing tip shape looks good to me. I'm hopeful that Arma will start next week shipping the kits that were pre-ordered a month ago, and then anyone who bought one (or more!) can have eyes on the actual product. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of men Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 On 10/11/2019 at 2:06 PM, Dave Fleming said: I don’t like all those rivets! 😀 Gotta agree. I'm no fan of rivets in 1:72. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaCee26 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 On 10/12/2019 at 10:54 PM, John Thompson said: Thanks for the vote of confidence; no, the wing tip shape looks good to me. I'm hopeful that Arma will start next week shipping the kits that were pre-ordered a month ago, and then anyone who bought one (or more!) can have eyes on the actual product. John Hi John You are welcome! As one advertisement said: "Ask one, who owns one" I remembered your labour-intensive Jak-1 project and thought you have better knowledge than my "mental image" of the Yakovlev's shapes And yes, I'm eagerly waiting delivery of the two with a single model price offer kits! Cheers, AaCee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 IT'S A HURRICANE IIC! http://armahobbynews.pl/en/blog/2019/10/31/hurricane-mk-iic-1-72-scale-kit-announcement/?utm_source=implebot&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=hurricane2c&utm_term=hurricane2c-zapowiedz&utm_content=en They say: Quote From the previous project of the Mk. I version I took the shape of the fuselage (rear part), as well as wings and tailplane. However, all the rest is an entirely new project. While maintaining a similar division of kit parts as in the Mk. I, I have improved the new model in many aspects. Let’s see a list of project changes quickly: New propeller design, one-piece, easier assembly, with a simplified method of attachment to the fuselage. I kept “kinetic realism” in the form of a spinning propeller, of course. A new connector section of the upper surface of the wings, imitating the pilot’s cabin floor. Main landing gear bays enriched with rivets. In the review of the model Mk.I in KFS-Miniatures , the unnecessary use of the photoetched plate was rightly pointed out here since the same effect can be achieved in plastic. Improved assembly of the undercarriage legs, now they can be glued after painting (in fact, it was possible before, but it required some extra effort) A more extended engine cover, new fish-tail exhausts, a new carburettor inlet, a new (longer) tropical filter cover as well as two variants of cannon barrels are the requirements of the new version. The new division into parts in the radiator housing. The radiator itself is here two-piece. Thanks to that we have more details and less risk of sinkholes Redesigned cockpit interior. I hope that thanks to the changing division of parts, the assembly of the whole will be more comfortable. 17 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Excellent news, can replace the revells I've built Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Is it my wishful thinking or do the images hint at a Sea Hurricane friendly arrest or hook section? Edge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Great news! Trusting Arma will now really embarrass Airfix by showing how they could and should have done it. Despite a stack of Revell IIcs and Sea Hurricane IIcs, I won't be able to resist a few of these. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 On 10/7/2019 at 4:48 PM, Graham Boak said: The world wasn't exactly desperately short of Hurricanes either, but by choosing a version not currently well made Arma managed to sell rather well (or so I believe). What's the old saying? Build a better mousetrap (or Hurricane) and the world will beat its way to your door. Well done, Arma: well deserved success. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) Source: https://www.facebook.com/ArmaHobby/posts/2732208890142784 - ref.70035 - Hawker Hurricane Mk.IIc expert set - ref.70036 - Hawker Hurricane Mk.IIc - ref.70037 - Hawker Hurricane Mk.IIc Trop V.P. Edited October 31, 2019 by Homebee 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMA131Marine Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Seahawk said: Great news! Trusting Arma will now really embarrass Airfix by showing how they could and should have done it. Despite a stack of Revell IIcs and Sea Hurricane IIcs, I won't be able to resist a few of these. To be fair to Airfix, the other Hurricane Mk.II kits on the market (I’m looking at you Revell, Hasegawa, Academy, Matchbox) are not without their own problems. I guess the best option up to now, if you want accuracy, has been the AZModels/Legato kit but this new Arma kit should be the best available by a country mile. it actually wouldn’t shock me if one of the Airfix new tool announcements for 2020 was a Hurricane IIb/c/d/IV. Edited October 31, 2019 by VMA131Marine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasermonkey Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Excellent news! I was kinda hoping it would either be a Mk II or a P-51B, so I'm very happy indeed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 22 minutes ago, VMA131Marine said: To be fair to Airfix, the other Hurricane Mk.II kits on the market (I’m looking at you Revell, Hasegawa, Academy, Matchbox) are not without their own problems. I guess the best option up to now, if you want accuracy, has been the AZModels/Legato kit but this new Arma kit should be the best available by a country mile. it actually wouldn’t shock me if one of the Airfix new tool announcements for 2020 was a Hurricane IIb/c/d/IV. You are too kind. yes, there are flaws with the others, as you say, but they are all old or ageing kits. To launch a new tooling that offered no advantage over said old and ageing kits (other than a nice transfer sheet) was an insult to the customer. But let's rejoice in what's to come rather than lamenting the mistakes of the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 I hope that the text is in error. There should not be a longer engine cowling, but a longer section between the canopy and the engine cowling. Oh dear? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojtek Bulhak Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 51 minutes ago, Graham Boak said: I hope that the text is in error. There should not be a longer engine cowling, but a longer section between the canopy and the engine cowling. Yes, it is just over-simplified in text. I will correct it later today. Thank you for pointing. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatbox8 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) This rather took me by surprise but great news. I was mightily impressed by the Mk1 and no doubt this kit will be as good or better. I hope one of the options will be Karel Kuttlewasher's all black aircraft from 1 Squadron. I've been wanting to build his aircraft for some time. P.S. Superb artwork. Edited October 31, 2019 by Meatbox8 Added a P.S. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botan Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Meatbox8 said: This rather took me by surprise but great news. I was mightily impressed by the Mk1 and no doubt this kit will be as good or better. I hope one of the options will be Karel Kuttlewasher's all black aircraft from 1 Squadron. I've been wanting to build his aircraft for some time. P.S. Superb artwork. Colour schemes are published with profiles in Arma Hobby store. 70035 Hawker Hurricane Mk IIc Expert Set Hurricane Mk IIc, BE500/LK-A, 87 Squadron RAF, Spring 1942. Pilot: S/Ldr Denis Smallwood. Hurricane Mk IIc, BE500/LK-A, 87 Squadron RAF, Operation Jubilee, Dieppe Raid, 19 August 1942. Pilot: S/Ldr Denis Smallwood. Hurricane Mk IIc, Z3899/JX-W, 1 Sqaudron RAF, November 1941. Hurricane Mk IIc trop, HV560/FT-Z, 43 Squadron RAF, Maison Blanche, Algieria, December, 1942. Pilot: S/Ldr Michael "Micky" Roo 70036 Hurricane Mk IIc Model Kit Hurricane Mk IIc, LF331/WC-G, “Target For Tonight", 309 Squadron PAF, Peterhead, Summer-Autumn 1944 Hurricane Mk IIc, Z3092/QO-T, 3 Squadron RAF, Hunsdon 1941-42 70037 Hurricane Mk IIc trop Model Kit! Hurricane Mk IIc trop, HL885/AX-Z, 1 Squadron SAAF, Lt. Stewart “Bomb” Finney, LG142, Egypt, September1942. Hurricane Mk IIc trop, LD726/Y, 113 Squadron RAF, pilot: F/O Graham Skallam, Burma 1944. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain goat Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Having seen the Mk1 in the box I really fancy owning one of these. I hope someone can answer this question (and excuse me for being such an utter Hurrinoob): but if I'd wanted to build LF363 in BBMF service in the 1980s - would a standard MkIIc as in the Arma kit suffice? Thanks, Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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