Serkan Sen Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) The front upper half was filled-filed-sanded many times to give the final shape and after then coated with primer. The panel lines were drawn with pencil and some panel patches were marked with masking film: There are some areas to improve surface quality but in overall it seems fine. I have not decided yet whether I should scribe the panel lines or raise them. Sinked panel lines is easy to do but it won't be consistent with the original kit part as they have raised panel lines unless they will be scribed. Serkan Edited October 24, 2019 by Serkan Sen 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Ranger Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 That is a beautiful assistant you have! What breed? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share Posted October 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, Space Ranger said: That is a beautiful assistant you have! What breed? Thanks, he is 4 months old British Long Hair. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolay Polyakov Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Yay, excellent work on the nose, Serkan! 👍 You have a very cute assistant! 😻 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted October 26, 2019 Author Share Posted October 26, 2019 (edited) I was not very happy with the nose shape. Even after a long filling-sanding process the nose curvature was still far from having realistic shape. Then I decided to create nose section contours and build a new nose model from these sections. The sections were cut with cutter/plotter using 0.5mm styrene sheet. All sections were glued on planform shape: The new nose shape looks better than existing one. The next step is to create surface from these sections. Serkan Edited October 27, 2019 by Serkan Sen 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billn53 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 This is going to be interesting 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Bob Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Serkan Sen said: The new nose shape looks better than existing one. The next step is to create surface from these sections. One word...WOW, 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted October 26, 2019 Author Share Posted October 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, billn53 said: This is going to be interesting Yes indeed... I need some fuel before going back to business 🍻🍺 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) Here are the steps how the new nose was built: First a well detailed A-12 (actually it is M-21) front view was used to draw sectional profiles following panel lines and rivets: Then these sections were mapped to top view drawing and curvatures were replaced with circular arcs: After then most representative few sections were used to generate smooth transitions using profile extrusion. Then 12 sections were selected to generate new nose: As given in my previous post here are the sections on sytrene sheet: And assembled form: Serkan Edited October 27, 2019 by Serkan Sen 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Uncool Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 My respects for having devised the newly shaped nose; unfortunately, now you'll also have to modify the shape of the whole bulkhead area aft of the windshield in the forward fuselage in order to adapt that new profile. Ask me how I know Cheers, Unc2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Uncle Uncool said: My respects for having devised the newly shaped nose; unfortunately, now you'll also have to modify the shape of the whole bulkhead area aft of the windshield in the forward fuselage in order to adapt that new profile. Ask me how I know Cheers, Unc2 Yes I know how much work I have to do. But no pain, no gain 🙂 Maybe it would have been easier to take a piece of wood and simply carve it to shape a new front fuselage... Serkan Edited October 28, 2019 by Serkan Sen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) The frames were filled with PUR: When it was fully cured I started to give its final shape. First starboard side was completed: After reshaping nose upper half the lower half was copied from existing part using modeling clay and PUR: Finally both halves were glued together to complete new nose: The new nose looks more realistic than the existing one... Serkan Edited October 28, 2019 by Serkan Sen 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Uncool Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 33 minutes ago, Serkan Sen said: Maybe it would have been easier to take a piece of wood and simply carve it to shape a new front fuselage... Not quite, Serkan, my mate. From personal experience with my Italeri 1/48 SR-71 kit build, I've learnt that it was possible to raise part of the kit forward fuselage 2mm in order to give room to the new profile of a modified nose at the bulkhead. It's possible to add 2mm strips in a longitudinal fashion some millimetres below the cockpit window sills like this: All in all, the height of the forward fuselage is way too shallow on the Testors/Italeri kits, this is why the upper half of the forward fuselage looks squashed, too flat, when viewed from the front. What do you think? Cheers, Unc2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted October 29, 2019 Author Share Posted October 29, 2019 8 hours ago, Uncle Uncool said: All in all, the height of the forward fuselage is way too shallow on the Testors/Italeri kits, this is why the upper half of the forward fuselage looks squashed, too flat, when viewed from the front. What do you think? I fully agree. The below photos show the difference between Italeri/Testors and Revell/Monogram kits: The Revell/Monogram kit has more realistic nose and fuselage shape (circular fuselage sections with circular arc chines) but the cockpit area ruins everything... I will do SR-71A mods on Revell/Monogram kit (using the canopy parts from this A-12 mod). Serkan 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neffan Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Hi Serkan, sure i'm more intersted by the Flanker family but, i can say that your work for this A-12 is really awesome ! May be you can make a Shenyang J-14 1/72 with resin ...? 🤨 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Uncool Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 4 hours ago, Serkan Sen said: I fully agree. The below photos show the difference between Italeri/Testors and Revell/Monogram kits: Wow! Check that out. I didn't know about the difference in the Revellogram examples. Too bad there ain't a Revellogram 1/48 Sled kit! I think it'd make a much better basis where to start mods from. Much likely, yeh... Cheers, Unc2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted October 29, 2019 Author Share Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Neffan said: Hi Serkan, sure i'm more intersted by the Flanker family but, i can say that your work for this A-12 is really awesome ! May be you can make a Shenyang J-14 1/72 with resin ...? 🤨 Thanks Neffan, I have lost my motivation after the aged resin disaster. Two of four Flankers were highly deformed during the desperate heat treatment using kitchen oven 😞 I will restart T-10M series builds soon. I have already casted the forward fuselage halves and also for Su-27IB and Su-33UBM I have casted clear parts. During last 2 weeks I have painted 20 AA-10, 50 AA-11, 20 AA-12 missiles to have enough armaments for all these Flanker derivatives 🙂 Serkan Edited October 29, 2019 by Serkan Sen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) The nose bulkhead had to be modified to match new nose shape: I started first starboard side; The both sides were modified and in overall the result is better than before: Next step is to coat the parts with primer and to add panel lines. Serkan Edited October 30, 2019 by Serkan Sen 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolay Polyakov Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 The progress looks superb, Serkan! 👏 I think you’re having enough mojo and skills to build your own models from the scratch... 😉 Keep up the good work. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) I am just wondering if any of you have the high resolution copies of these drawings: I really get tired of never ending sanding/filling/shaping process... Maybe best way is to make 3D CAD modelling and printing all parts with 3D resin printer (which I bought one last week) 🤔 Serkan Edited November 7, 2019 by Serkan Sen 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVW Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Hello Serkan, a hi-res copy of one of the plans shown can be purchased: http://www.aerospaceprojectsreview.com/catalog/drawndoc.htm http://www.aerospaceprojectsreview.com/catalog/airdwg33.jpg Thanks for sharing your building experience, pure inspiration! Regards, Martin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolay Polyakov Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Serkan Sen said: I really get tired of never ending sanding/filling/shaping process... Maybe best way is to make 3D CAD modelling and printing all parts with 3D resin printer (which I bought one last week) 🤔 I was told you about that: 😋 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Ranger Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, MVW said: http://www.aerospaceprojectsreview.com/catalog/airdwg33.jpg And only $3! A bargain! (I have no connection to Aerospace Projects Review other than as a satisfied customer.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 6 hours ago, MVW said: Hello Serkan, a hi-res copy of one of the plans shown can be purchased: http://www.aerospaceprojectsreview.com/catalog/drawndoc.htm http://www.aerospaceprojectsreview.com/catalog/airdwg33.jpg Thanks for sharing your building experience, pure inspiration! Regards, Martin Hi Martin, Thanks lot sharing this link and for your kind words 🙂 5 hours ago, Space Ranger said: And only $3! A bargain! (I have no connection to Aerospace Projects Review other than as a satisfied customer.) I fully agree Michael. I have bought it and got the download link within 2 hours. This is exactly what I was looking for... 🙂 Serkan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted November 8, 2019 Author Share Posted November 8, 2019 Is there any source to get first three drawings in high resolution as well? Serkan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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