B-17 man Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 On 10/6/2019 at 7:52 AM, Richard123 said: I was hoping to read about the HK B-17 when I opened this thread but all I find is talk about how good/bad Monogram kits are! Can we get back to the point please. Why not open another thread to discuss Monogram? Agreed 😐 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lancaster Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 20 hours ago, Gooney Fan said: Hello I too would like to know the release date. I've got all new decals in stock waiting for it's release.. Gooney Fan I think at the moment as mentioned we're looking at a Oct/Nov release date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caughtinthemiddle Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Almost final sprue set on over 100 images: http://www.kfs-miniatures.com/1-48-b-17g-early-production-testshot-hk-models/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Uncool Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 2 hours ago, caughtinthemiddle said: http://www.kfs-miniatures.com/1-48-b-17g-early-production-testshot-hk-models/ It does look good! So tempting. Yeh, it is... Cheers, Unc2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Seraph Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 DROOL 🤯🤪🥳 !!! I know the recessed rivet treatment will not please everybody but... boy I like it, so many different rivet diameters, and the biggest seem to me totally acceptable at that scale. It looks so supple, almost Tamiya-esque. Beautiful surface finish. Excellent part definition. Splendid crystal-clear clear parts and apparently no nasty effects on the glass nose. I regret the non positionable controls, 1 piece control yoke and engine (which still look okay) but there is so much more to love in this kit that the 3 cons are easily forgotten. Of course just my personal opinion. In this price range (is it USD 120-130 ?), I think it will be a great success. A BIG thank you Hong Kong Models !!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom216 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Damn fine looking plastic! Just glad the IP is not the final product!🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnl42 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 15 hours ago, caughtinthemiddle said: Almost final sprue set on over 100 images: http://www.kfs-miniatures.com/1-48-b-17g-early-production-testshot-hk-models/ Dang... Just waiting for that F! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank083 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Awesome news! The B-17 is one of my favorite aircraft & my introduction to scale modeling when I was a kid with the Revell version! I was waiting this announce for years! I will definitely be a buyer but keeping some money for a potential « E » / « F » version more elegant to my eyes! 😊 For reasons mentionned above, I will keep my 2 good & old Monogram kits because they are just a joy to build & make me forget their little mistakes... cheers Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocoolname Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 But when are they going to Take my money!!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 On 10/4/2019 at 7:51 PM, Uncle Uncool said: It's perfectly clear, Dennis, my mate; sincerely. I've been building the 1/48 range of Monogram aircraft kits since I was a toddler, and I've always liked them for their accurate shape. Detail is important, no doubt, but there are times you are better off with shape accuracy than detail. It's obviously much easier to fix the lack of detail in a kit than it's to fix shape issues. More Monogram kits that I recall being better shapewise than the new-tool ones: 1/48 Monogram Warthog kit vs Tamiya and Hobby Boss ones 1/48 Monogram Mitchell kit vs Accurate Miniatures one Sure more will come to mind later. Yeh, me is... Cheers, Unc2 I’ve often wondered if we feel Monogram shapes are the accurate standard because we have trained our minds to those shapes because we all built them so often. I know a lot of new tool kits look awful, especially the Trumpeter C-47. But how many errors do the Monogram kits also have? Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) New Foxbot Decals - ref. 48-032 - Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress Stencils Source: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=2216807635281474&id=1578150815813829 V.P. Edited October 15, 2019 by Homebee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocoolname Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 On 10/5/2019 at 2:51 AM, Uncle Uncool said: "It's perfectly clear, Dennis, my mate; sincerely. I've been building the 1/48 range of Monogram aircraft kits since I was a toddler..." So have I and mine look like they've been built by a toddler! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 On 10/4/2019 at 11:36 AM, Scimitar F1 said: Quick Q - from the parts breakdown, particularly the fairing behind the cockpit as a separate part - are we going to get a C/D as well as an E/F? There won’t be the scope to make a C/D from this mould. The rear fuselage is totally different from the rear radio room bulkhead back, shorter nose, totally different turtle deck layout for the cockpit area, mods needed to the wings, flight deck internals very different... I think the only option for a 1/48th shark-tailed Fort will remain the Koster conversion for the foreseeable future. I’m part-way through converting the Monogram G and it really is a beautiful conversion kit - very comprehensive and fits like a glove. I wonder if it’ll fit the HK kit as well as it does the Monogram? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightersweep Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, tomprobert said: There won’t be the scope to make a C/D from this mould. Tom: I know you know your B-17s. Is there anywhere that catalogues the differences between the various mods and BO, DL and VE built fortresses. I'm trying to figure out how to arrive at a B-17G-35-DL with the new HK kit, but apart from the wing tip tank vents and staggered waist gun positions, I'm struggling. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, fightersweep said: Tom: I know you know your B-17s. Is there anywhere that catalogues the differences between the various mods and BO, DL and VE built fortresses. I'm trying to figure out how to arrive at a B-17G-35-DL with the new HK kit, but apart from the wing tip tank vents and staggered waist gun positions, I'm struggling. Steve Hi Steve, I'm on hols at the moment and away from my references, but when I’m back I’ll do some digging for you. Hold fire until next week. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightersweep Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, tomprobert said: Hi Steve, I'm on hols at the moment and away from my references, but when I’m back I’ll do some digging for you. Hold fire until next week. Tom Thanks Tom. I appreciate that. I do have a few photos of the aircraft I want to build that will be helpful that already highlight some other differences. One of these are the waistgun windows. The gun mount looks almost like a field mod, but I've seen it on other 35-DLs, which is interesting. I've also heard that the nose glazing might differ, so I've come to the conclusion that it might be a minefield for the unwary! 🙂 Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I have been looking into the Monogram kit as its mentione here quite a lot. I noticed on Ebay that a number of modellers are selling the Monogram kit presumably to get the funds for the HK version. I spotted this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Monogram-1-48-B-17G-Flying-Fortress/133197537230?hash=item1f03311fce:g:394AAOSw1mZdndTH and saw that numerous AM products are readily available for the Monogram/Revell kit so are they compatible ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightersweep Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Mancunian airman said: numerous AM products are readily available for the Monogram/Revell kit so are they compatible ??? I'm not sure, but I've got a bit of resin and etch for the Monogram kit, so I will try it when I get the HK kit in my hands. To be honest though, I reckon we'll see a lot of aftermarket appear for the HK kit fairly quickly. I think I'm going to keep my Monogram kit to build anyway so I'll use the extras I have for it eventually. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Uncool Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 On 10/14/2019 at 7:33 PM, Scooby said: But how many errors do the Monogram kits also have? Not every Monogram kit is accurate; like I said, the Monogram 1/48 B-29 kit is awful, but still the only game in town. The SBD Dauntless kit, although correct in shape, is WAY too much toy-like for my taste. Still wondering whether or not the F4F Wildcat kit was just as toy-like as the SBD one. They're accurate in shape, tho. 18 hours ago, Nocoolname said: So have I and mine look like they've been built by a toddler! The Monogram 1/48 A6M5 kit had very thick wings. It looked as though the wings had been blown air inside! Yeh, it did... Cheers, Unc2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
593jones Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I wonder if there's any chance they will release it with parts for an RAF Fortress III. That is something I would buy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCZ Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I don´t understand a lobbying for "early" Fortress as B/C/D. You need a complete new mold for fuselage, tail etc... Completely different aircraft and economical suicide. Monogram know why don´t make this version... Maybe as resin or 3D printed conversion set ? But i can´t see a price tag.... for huge aircraft as Flying Fortress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28ZComeback Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I bet the Koster conversion will fit with minor sanding and filling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCZ Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Conversion is only way to early B-17 in quarter scale. Unfortunately, isn´t a ´90, why Academy - Minicraft released their completed family of B-17. But in small scale. I know, early Fortress is beautiful bomber and fight in early stage of Pacific campaign... but F or G was better choice for "Milking cow". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wuger91 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Modeling Madness First Build http://www.modelingmadness.com/review/allies/cleaver/us/usaaf/bomber/tc17.htm 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocoolname Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Wuger91 said: Modeling Madness First Build http://www.modelingmadness.com/review/allies/cleaver/us/usaaf/bomber/tc17.htm It bodes well that test shots are already being sent out for build. Gives me confidence that this might hit the stores when planned. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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