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Short Sunderland Mk III - Italeri 1/72

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Aviaeology Sunderland Decals comes with these neat drawings and info.

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Blimey, all you ever wanted to know about exploding thingys but we’re afraid to ask.

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17 hours ago, bhouse said:

Very impressive research going on here.

And I had no idea Michael Jackson had a Sunderland type rating...

It was an honorary one on the kit only. On account of he had the same amount of plastic in him!

 

Ian

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Hi Ced,

 

Sorry late to the party on the DC stowage and Smoke/Flare floats

 

First off the Mk I/II and very possible "Early Production" Mk III's

had the capacity/fittings to launch the flares through the fuselage,

as you can see in this Wikipedia Photo - note the dual tubes that

can be loaded from the "Mezzanine Floor (Ward room roof).

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There were flaps that opened up as the munitions went out into the slipstream -note the camera

mounting below - unfortunately that drawing posted earlier is some what stylized as the Sunderland's

never had such a cutout as portrayed in the fuselage.

I do have photos of the Racks on the flare/smoke float racks, but they are on another hard drive, so

I borrowed this from Kiwi Aircraft images

Flare & Smoke Float racks

 

Now to the question of AS Bomb/Depth Charge re-loads

This is from the Sunderland Mk III Manual

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Note on this, are the 450lb DC's also, only ever carried outside under the wings (not on MK III's)

 

Now note this photo - you can read "Bomb Stowage Equipment By Special Order Only"

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Given that comment, "Extra" Munitions were not a given to be carried by all Sunderlands.

Also not shown, is a Special Trestle Table used to assist in loading the munitions from the floor.

Again by "Special Order only"

Hope that helps you?

Regards

 

Alan

 

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23 hours ago, bhouse said:

What about building the Sunderland just after all the bombs/depth charges/flares etc. have been dropped?

:rofl:Now there's an idea… thanks Brian

22 hours ago, keefr22 said:

 

I think it's surprising that no one has mentioned how much more pleasure can be derived from having sausages rather than Weetabix for breakfast..... :eat:

 

K

 

PS - why does the creature from the caramel lagoon have a saucepan on his head....?

 

mmmm, sausages - thanks Keith :) Saucepan? It's those horrid Airfix figures and the nasty plastic they're made of. It's now been trimmed to look something like a cap.

22 hours ago, JosephLalor said:

After seeing this post, I now imagine the Sunderland as possibly being the only British combat aircraft to have a steward on board.

Thanks Joseph - Of course a steward was required for the long sorties :) 

21 hours ago, Terry1954 said:

Or better still a sausage and bacon bap .......... as a very occasional break from porridge of course!

 

Terry

Stop it you lot, I'm on a diet! :D 

21 hours ago, bhouse said:

Very impressive research going on here.

And I had no idea Michael Jackson had a Sunderland type rating...

Thanks Brian - and more to come! :) 

20 hours ago, limeypilot said:

Now I'm no expert, but those look more like your 250lb depth charges to me! Flat nose and no impact detonator!

 

Ian

Thanks Ian - we'll get it sorted, I hope :) 

18 hours ago, dogsbody said:

Ced, what you have there, in the kit parts, is an anti-submarine bomb. Those are different than depth charges. Below are taken from the same source as my last posting.

[snip pictures]

 

Chris

Thanks Chris - more great information, appreciated :) I shall now refer to them as 'bombs'.

18 hours ago, Fishbed said:

The Airfix Whitley VII kit has an extra few bits with the radar aerials and a handful of what could be these very bombs/ depth charges.  I may have used mine, but others may have them spare?

 

Tim

 

Tim

Thanks Tim :) 

17 hours ago, hendie said:

 

You are of course quite right Crisp.  In my defense, it was an open target and I couldn't resist.

 

:D 

16 hours ago, keefr22 said:

 

Oh for heavens sake Terry.......................... you forgot the egg...!!

 

Keith

14 hours ago, Terry1954 said:

Yes of course the egg!!!!!!

 

Terry

… and the beans? :D 

 

14 hours ago, John D.C. Masters said:

That's about right.  Suitable for inexpensive student furniture.

Chipboard, that is. Quite right John :) 

 

9 hours ago, philp said:

Aviaeology Sunderland Decals comes with these neat drawings and info.

[snip pic]

Thanks Phil, more great information :) 

4 hours ago, Biggles87 said:

Blimey, all you ever wanted to know about exploding thingys but we’re afraid to ask.

Indeed! :D 

3 hours ago, limeypilot said:

It was an honorary one on the kit only. On account of he had the same amount of plastic in him!

 

Ian

:rofl:Thanks Ian.

1 hour ago, LDSModeller said:

Hi Ced,

 

Sorry late to the party on the DC stowage and Smoke/Flare floats

 

First off the Mk I/II and very possible "Early Production" Mk III's

had the capacity/fittings to launch the flares through the fuselage,

as you can see in this Wikipedia Photo - note the dual tubes that

can be loaded from the "Mezzanine Floor (Ward room roof).

[snip pic]

 

There were flaps that opened up as the munitions went out into the slipstream -note the camera

mounting below - unfortunately that drawing posted earlier is some what stylized as the Sunderland's

never had such a cutout as portrayed in the fuselage.

I do have photos of the Racks on the flare/smoke float racks, but they are on another hard drive, so

I borrowed this from Kiwi Aircraft images

Flare & Smoke Float racks

 

Now to the question of AS Bomb/Depth Charge re-loads

This is from the Sunderland Mk III Manual

[snip pic]

 

Note on this, are the 450lb DC's also, only ever carried outside under the wings (not on MK III's)

 

Now note this photo - you can read "Bomb Stowage Equipment By Special Order Only"

[snip pic]

 

Given that comment, "Extra" Munitions were not a given to be carried by all Sunderlands.

Also not shown, is a Special Trestle Table used to assist in loading the munitions from the floor.

Again by "Special Order only"

Hope that helps you?

Regards

 

Alan

 

Thanks Alan, more useful information, appreciated :) 

 

There will now be a short pause while I have a rest… 🐾

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4 hours ago, CedB said:

… and the beans?

 

Beans? In a sausage, bacon and egg bap? Messy....!!! :)

 

5 hours ago, CedB said:

short pause while I have a rest… 🐾

 

They look more like short paws to me.... :whistle:

 

K

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Messy yes but boy, how wonderfully tasty

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I was having a full breakfast in the pub when I read this first. Watching the S Africa v Italy game and enjoying bacon, sausages, black pudding, white pudding, eggs, baked beans, mushroom, oh and some Yank thing that has started to appear on British breakfasts, hash browns. I like them, but not on a fry up!

T'was a lively lunch as the bar was full of Sth Africans!

 

Ian

So much for the diet!

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All this talk of food is making me hungry, so I think I’ll have a early lunch as SWMBO is visiting a friend in hospital and I can please myself.

 

John

 

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On 10/4/2019 at 11:05 AM, CedB said:

 Of course a steward was required for the long sorties :) 

Looks like from post 229 that he had plenty of time off - pyjamas too! But did no one say smoking in bed was dangerous? 😀

Don

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On 10/3/2019 at 6:28 AM, JosephLalor said:

I now imagine the Sunderland as possibly being the only British combat aircraft to have a steward on board.

Not seeing any shreddies or Weetabix in the galley pantry in the photo- I'm just sayin'! Or more likely, after reading all of the posts, the Weetabix bits are mounted on the bomb racks! 😜

Mike

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Long time no update Ced - mojo gone or off on holibobs?!

 

K

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On 04/10/2019 at 16:07, keefr22 said:

 

Beans? In a sausage, bacon and egg bap? Messy....!!! :)

 

 

They look more like short paws to me.... :whistle:

 

K

Thanks Keith - messy baps eh? Nasty :D 

On 04/10/2019 at 16:14, perdu said:

Messy yes but boy, how wonderfully tasty

:whistle:

On 04/10/2019 at 16:57, limeypilot said:

I was having a full breakfast in the pub when I read this first. Watching the S Africa v Italy game and enjoying bacon, sausages, black pudding, white pudding, eggs, baked beans, mushroom, oh and some Yank thing that has started to appear on British breakfasts, hash browns. I like them, but not on a fry up!

T'was a lively lunch as the bar was full of Sth Africans!

 

Ian

So much for the diet!

Envious Ian - blast this diet :) 

On 05/10/2019 at 11:12, Biggles87 said:

All this talk of food is making me hungry, so I think I’ll have a early lunch as SWMBO is visiting a friend in hospital and I can please myself.

 

John

 

Ah, the joy of 'eat when you like' - enjoy John :) 

11 hours ago, Teuchter said:

Looks like from post 229 that he had plenty of time off - pyjamas too! But did no one say smoking in bed was dangerous? 😀

Don

Ah, smoking in bed, I remember that - vaguely! :) 

10 hours ago, 72modeler said:

Not seeing any shreddies or Weetabix in the galley pantry in the photo- I'm just sayin'! Or more likely, after reading all of the posts, the Weetabix bits are mounted on the bomb racks! 😜

Mike

No Weetabix for me thanks :) 

9 hours ago, keefr22 said:

Long time no update Ced - mojo gone or off on holibobs?!

 

K

Apologies Keith - a bit of both!

 

We had a long weekend with some friends that have a Ski Chalet in Abondance, French Alps. Not being a fan of fixing slippery planks to my feet on slippery ground we've not been before as we had to wait until they went when it was green. Like this:

 

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There was some white stuff on the tops on Monday:

 

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A great time was had by all, except that I've got another of those sebaceous cysts, this time not on my head but in my, er, nether regions. As usual it's a pain but this one's sorted itself after a hot bath so no visit to the surgeon for me this time, thankfully. I shall miss the free tools though…

 

Saw the Doc today and he's given me some antibiotics and dressings. Trouble is the dressing are a bit big so I'll need to do a Kaya Scodelario (she's half Brazilian).

 

 

TMI? Sorry. I hope to have some mojo back soon - the Sunderland awaits!

 

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30 minutes ago, CedB said:

Thanks Keith - messy baps eh? Nasty :D 

:whistle:

Envious Ian - blast this diet :) 

Ah, the joy of 'eat when you like' - enjoy John :) 

Ah, smoking in bed, I remember that - vaguely! :) 

No Weetabix for me thanks :) 

Apologies Keith - a bit of both!

 

We had a long weekend with some friends that have a Ski Chalet in Abondance, French Alps. Not being a fan of fixing slippery planks to my feet on slippery ground we've not been before as we had to wait until they went when it was green. Like this:

 

48869542061_9a2fa6ae51_z.jpg

 

48869542086_a25d4dd422_z.jpg

 

There was some white stuff on the tops on Monday:

 

48869542001_5caf883f73_z.jpg

 

A great time was had by all, except that I've got another of those sebaceous cysts, this time not on my head but in my, er, nether regions. As usual it's a pain but this one's sorted itself after a hot bath so no visit to the surgeon for me this time, thankfully. I shall miss the free tools though…

 

Saw the Doc today and he's given me some antibiotics and dressings. Trouble is the dressing are a bit big so I'll need to do a Kaya Scodelario (she's half Brazilian).

 

 

TMI? Sorry. I hope to have some mojo back soon - the Sunderland awaits!

 

Sorry, Ced, but I did giggle a little reading that last bit.

 

 

Chris

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Thanks Chris - No worries, it was supposed to be amusing :D

 

 

 

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26 minutes ago, CedB said:

 No worries, it was supposed to be amusing :D

 

That's good, cos I laughed too....!! :whistle: :)

 

K

 

(pretty pics of the mountains too!)

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13 hours ago, CedB said:

 

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Nice job on the chalets Ced, but I think you have the wrong shade of green for the grass and the cotton wool for the clouds just doesn't look right

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Chalet looks beautiful, I’m very jealous! Glad you had an good time, but not glad about all the other stuff!

 

Rob

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That does look nice.Back from Dordogne this PM, can't show you any piccies of our water mill because they were taken on SWMBO's new smartphone ( non  I-type ) and she hasn't worked out yet how to transfer them to the Mac.

 

John 

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51 minutes ago, Biggles87 said:

she hasn't worked out yet how to transfer them to the Mac.

Perils of new technology John

 

I am of course entirely jealous of the lot of ya

 

'cept the cyst bits Ced

 

Not at all green eyed about that  :(

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2 hours ago, limeypilot said:

Where's the pub? 

 

Ian

Looks like it on the right side of the second picture Ian


Wondering whether to head for mine now?

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3 hours ago, limeypilot said:

Where's the pub? 

 

Nowhere!

 

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23 hours ago, CedB said:

Like this:

 

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Anyone else hear the Where Eagles Dare theme coming out of that that picture?

'Broad Ced calling Danny Boy...'

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