Plumbum Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I was going to do this years ago. I finally have the time and want to do an F-15A. I think I was told way back that the Hasegawa 1/72 F-15C USAF boxing was a good place to start. I am totally ignorant to Eagles as I mainly do Navy jets and Japanese WWII fighters. What do I need to do to back date to an A model? Thanks---John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Probably the esci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumbum Posted September 14, 2019 Author Share Posted September 14, 2019 Thanks, so take care of the fairing and get some early resin wheels. Sounds good to me.---John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 What timeframe and unit are you looking at? Regards, Murph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplasticsurgeon Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 There was an F-15 Eagle STGB in 2013, so have a peruse of the 1/72 builds - see what you like about each. Here's my Hasegawa F-15A from that build. And a previous Airfix F-15A 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumbum Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 Those look nice! I was looking at an early F-15A with the old blue scheme. Did all the units use that scheme or just a few early ones? I have seen tail codes FF and LA. I had the 1/72 Hasegawa USAF F-15C version and it was quite good, liked the turkey feathers, a pain to assemble but looked much better than the old Airfix E although outside of that it was a good kit. Is the ESCI A really an A? jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busnproplinerfan Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 I think just a few early ones, not sure. I have the same kit to do in blue also. I had a hard time getting the paint . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e8n2 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Johnv said: Those look nice! I was looking at an early F-15A with the old blue scheme. Did all the units use that scheme or just a few early ones? I have seen tail codes FF and LA. I had the 1/72 Hasegawa USAF F-15C version and it was quite good, liked the turkey feathers, a pain to assemble but looked much better than the old Airfix E although outside of that it was a good kit. Is the ESCI A really an A? jon The early A models did not have the Turkey Feathers of the later models. The tail pipe shroud was still in place. They went to the Turkey Feathers (no shroud) in the late 70s. You would have to get a set of resin tail pipes that still had the shroud. Aires part number 7123 has the correct type of tail pipes for an early A model F-15. Later, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplasticsurgeon Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Johnv said: Those look nice! I was looking at an early F-15A with the old blue scheme. Did all the units use that scheme or just a few early ones? I have seen tail codes FF and LA. I had the 1/72 Hasegawa USAF F-15C version and it was quite good, liked the turkey feathers, a pain to assemble but looked much better than the old Airfix E although outside of that it was a good kit. Is the ESCI A really an A? jon It's all mentioned on my Triple Nickle build thread, just the first few Eagles that colour with white codes. Then realised that this enhances visibility, rather than obscuring - hence changed to grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplasticsurgeon Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 hour ago, busnproplinerfan said: I think just a few early ones, not sure. I have the same kit to do in blue also. I had a hard time getting the paint . I mixed my own colour, until it looked right. Some blue into a tin of Humbrol 127. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busnproplinerfan Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 I found some tamiya original blue off evilbay i think. Should make sure it’s still good . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT7567 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 On 9/13/2019 at 10:45 PM, Jordi said: The only real difference is the tiny fairing aft of the speed brake on the spine. Other than that, the main wheel hubs are about the only real difference. This isn't entirely accurate. The dorsal airbrake of the F-15 underwent several changes over time, but they don't correspond precisely to the sub-types. Prototypes & Pre-production/FSD airframes (FY 71-72 serials) originally featured a "short" airbrake design - trailing edge ending at roughly the same point as the aft end of the curved fairings that blend the wing root and house the gun (starboard) and IFR receptacle (port). For the bulk of production A/B (73-0085 through 77-0168) the airbrake was extended aft, ending approximately at the point where the engine "bulges" begin. Initially the enlarged airbrake had an external "fin" running its full length. At some point during A/B production the airbrake fin was deleted, and a "finless" version of the long airbrake seems to have been used for most A/Bs and all C/D production. Some A/Bs were also retrofitted with the later airbrake, however the early version could still be found on a few F-15A/Bs at least as late as the early 2000s. It's thus possible to find A/Bs with all three airbrake types, but if you have a specific serial number you can at least verify whether it has the short or long version. Finned/finless would require a photo to confirm, but for all but the very early airframes the odds favor finless. Another more definitive difference between the A/B and C/D - albeit one not easy to determine in most cases - is the main wheels. Early Eagles featured main landing gear wheel hubs with 12 holes, originally painted black. For C/D production a revised wheel design was used with 8 holes in the hubs which were typically white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverkite Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, CT7567 said: This isn't entirely accurate. The dorsal airbrake of the F-15 underwent several changes over time, but they don't correspond precisely to the sub-types. Prototypes & Pre-production/FSD airframes (FY 71-72 serials) originally featured a "short" airbrake design - trailing edge ending at roughly the same point as the aft end of the curved fairings that blend the wing root and house the gun (starboard) and IFR receptacle (port). For the bulk of production A/B (73-0085 through 77-0168) the airbrake was extended aft, ending approximately at the point where the engine "bulges" begin. Initially the enlarged airbrake had an external "fin" running its full length. At some point during A/B production the airbrake fin was deleted, and a "finless" version of the long airbrake seems to have been used for most A/Bs and all C/D production. Some A/Bs were also retrofitted with the later airbrake, however the early version could still be found on a few F-15A/Bs at least as late as the early 2000s. It's thus possible to find A/Bs with all three airbrake types, but if you have a specific serial number you can at least verify whether it has the short or long version. Finned/finless would require a photo to confirm, but for all but the very early airframes the odds favor finless. Another more definitive difference between the A/B and C/D - albeit one not easy to determine in most cases - is the main wheels. Early Eagles featured main landing gear wheel hubs with 12 holes, originally painted black. For C/D production a revised wheel design was used with 8 holes in the hubs which were typically white. There is another difference ( if I did not shifted into a different universe) at the aft end of the airbrake there are some reinforcement plates which were different between A and C variants respectively U shaped for A and Y-T~ish shaped for C variants, Detail & Scale book shows that, I'm trying to scavenge pictures from my messy folders but it will take time and I usually forget about everything the day after posting something on the forums (my bad :-\) Also MLG wells were painted in metallic green or blue paint, plus there it was all that hell of things I was trying to describe in a different thread but I lost the will to correct myself Probably something can be seen here (Wikimedia pics) F-15A there it was a thread on ARC forums regarding the red/brown canopy sealing F-15C Luigi Edited September 15, 2019 by Silverkite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 14 hours ago, Silverkite said: Also MLG wells were painted in metallic green or blue paint Any pics? I know about the electronics well aft of the pilot on the singleseaters being painted this shade, but this is the first time I've seen main landing gear bays of the F-15 being anything other than white. Cheers, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverkite Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hook said: Any pics? I know about the electronics well aft of the pilot on the singleseaters being painted this shade, but this is the first time I've seen main landing gear bays of the F-15 being anything other than white. Cheers, Andre It was a discussion on ARC forums, barely anyone was aware of it, this thread comes with a list of A/C differences, I'm now scavenging for the other thread http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?/topic/295433-early-f-15a-from-the-gwh-f-15c/ Ok found it, pics will be probably hard to find through Google, maybe Flickr has them hidden somewhere http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?/topic/298797-icelandic-f-15s/page/2/&tab=comments#comment-2861545 and here Dave explains the red/brown thing that surrounds the canopy http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?/topic/246071-f-15-canopy-question/&tab=comments#comment-2341947 Luigi Edited September 16, 2019 by Silverkite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Thanks! Cheers, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumbum Posted September 17, 2019 Author Share Posted September 17, 2019 Thanks, can the Hasegawa F-15DJ be used for an ANG F-15D? Looks to be same kit as USAF but with 2 seats. Thanks jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Johnv said: Thanks, can the Hasegawa F-15DJ be used for an ANG F-15D? Looks to be same kit as USAF but with 2 seats. Thanks jon Sure. Just use the 2nd vertical tail marked not for use in the instructions for theJapanese version - F-15J/DJ's have identical mass balances on top, USAF Eagles have a fatter ECM antenna on the port side. Cheers, Andre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael A. Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Who in the US has: the Reskit RS72-0020 Wheels Set For F-15 (A/B) Eagle Resin Detail Set 1/72 for sale? This appears to be a necessity in order to build an accurate / early F-15A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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