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DaveRob

Complete Newbie Starts Revell Fieseler Storch 1:32

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Nice work so far. I’d be a little nervous if that framework supporting the wings, if it were me I’d be thinking of replacing some of it with brass rod. 
 

masking, where to start. Tamiya tape is good, maskol liquid is also useful. There are many other tools and methods. As I brush paint I mostly use these two. I do sometimes resort to painted decal film for a hard edge. I have however purchased an airbrush recently and I’m building myself up to using it for the camouflage on my JI.

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OK so I got a bit further...  I decided to paint sub assemblies and parts that I couldn't get behind and off sprue... so their is a decision. I have a cockpit sub assy and engine sub assy,  its mount as a sub assy, machine gun, flight deck, wheels and the a load of small parts that ill paint before fixing ... suitably masked of course... but lets get them in primer first as my other decision is to prime first by decanting Tamiya fine primer then airbrushing.  My first attempt looked good so crash on with the rest of the parts.... hopefully priming tomorrow evening 

 

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Engine

 

 

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Then I thought lets start on the wings and here is the first bit I could do with some historical... or even aeronautical advice.

 

The Storch features slats and flaps,  as does my future Lysander project.... Im familiar with flaps and their positions in relative flight modes... but slats... hmmmm.  I have 3 photos where I have positioned in dry fit the slats in relation to the leading edge,  this is going to be a static model portrayed as it would be on the ground / apron / field  not running and awaiting a pilot

 

With the Storch will the slats be in position 1,2 or 3.... and would the flaps be stowed to prevent the wind creating so much lift it takes off....  

 

Or maybe a better question is what would,  in your opinion, be the best way to display the slats and flaps

 

photo 1

 

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photo2

 

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photo3

 

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As always thanks for your input.... primer tomorrow and some paint in a couple of days after to make sure its all dry and gassed off

 

TIA DaveR

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Here is a photo from Wiki. 

 

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Found here in the post war section. Looks like  photo 1 or 3 might be the best bet for position. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fieseler_Fi_156

 

Dennis

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8 minutes ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said:

Here is a photo from Wiki. 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fieseler_Fi_156

 

I actually thought that the slats and flaps would be fully retracted when on the ground to prevent the wind lifting the wing....  Id prefer to display it as fully deployed slats and flaps so it looks like ... although its not completely clear from those photos ... the slats are more or less parallel to the leading edge, ie with an equal gap all round... although one of those photos shows them deployed forward with the trailing edge of the flaps against the wing surface, but is that in prep for landing???... the deployment I like best from those is the sprayer but would that be ok???  that looks like a posed for the camera shot.... a good breeze and that would take off on its own !!!

 

DaveR

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Your model, your choice Dave. One of the frustrating things historically, but good for us modellers, is that there's very little 'real life' experience from this era… sadly.

Modern pilots get to buy a round of drinks at the bar if they leave flaps deployed. 

Did that 'rule' come from 'those days'?

Who knows.

 

I always go for the 'I like that' option 'cos you're the one who has to look at it after the RFI shots! :D 

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3 hours ago, DaveRob said:

the deployment I like best from those is the sprayer but would that be ok???  that looks like a posed for the camera shot.... a good breeze and that would take off on its own !!!

Sorry just got back to this, i think you'd be just fine like that. It might be a posed shot it might not be. It could be in between two hops for the day so not buttoned up so to say. Its been said that actually could happen with the Storch. It supposedly has such a light takeoff speed and positive control, that i could believe a strong wind could do that. Of course that is part of the designed purpose of a STOL aircraft like the Storch. To get in and out of tight spaces for rescue/supply. Ive read one of these were flown by Hanna Reitsch into very tight space in Berlin, a park or stadium during the closing days of the war for that very purpose. Check out the section labelled Berlin 1945. 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanna_Reitsch

 

Dennis

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Nice work! 

 

As @Corsairfoxfouruncle demonstrated, reference books and Google are both your friends. The slats on the Storch were apparently fixed, so match the photos best as you can. The flaps are your choice.

 

As for the Lysander, the slats were retractable. They automatically deployed as speed decreased (per the Pilot's Notes, they started deploying below about 85 MPH). Also, the flaps were linked to the inner slats. So, on that aircraft, slats and flaps would always be extended after landing.

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1 hour ago, dnl42 said:

Nice work! 

The slats on the Storch were apparently fixed, so match the photos best as you can. The flaps are your choice.

 

Didn’t know they were fixed so that makes it easy. I’ll dig about for reference photos. Was just that photo in wiki that kinda showed them extended but trailing edge flat to the wing top surface so it looks like if they are fixed they still can be rotated   I’ll check photos and pick what I like then 🙂

 

inhave the pilots notes for the Lysander so it’s an easier decision given they were linked to the inner flaps but all that’s to come in my next build log

 

thanks for your input

 

DaveR

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When I built my 1/72 Storch some time ago Nigel posted some photos of the Storch at the East Fortune museum that might help. Scroll down to post #22 for some more (but ignore the madness!) :D 

 

There's also a note that the cockpit was painted RLM02 and instrumental panel RLM66.

 

HTH

Ced

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3 hours ago, CedB said:

When I built my 1/72 Storch some time ago Nigel posted some photos of the Storch at the East Fortune museum that might help. 

These were very helpful @CedB Thanks..... 

 

Looks like Ill be checking You Tube re paint techniques for weathering etc..... Ill get the primer on tonight then by Friday it should be dry enough to start the engine and ancillary final coats... then on to final assembly of the fuselage and wings.

 

DaveR

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