spartacus2000 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Hi everyone, I'm here for you after a long time to model in a physical and not a virtual way. This kit is this And the camo will be this, that even if not British, intrigues me the fact of playing with the contrast of the desert camo very faded with the new color of the American insignia and the cancellation of the original ones It will be an OOb since in the package you will find everything you need to pull out a detailed model and then I don't want to go crazy in super detail that disappears when the fuselage will closes. The level of detail in the kit is very high. But let's get to the cockpit. As said the plastic details are very satisfying and the small PE plate enriches the pit very well I've used the PE dashboard 'causethe decal was used in an other prj. below are some photos of the fundamental steps: I started with a very contrasted preshading with a dark gray for the shadows and a light gray + white for the zones in the view of the little light that penetrates a closed fuselage. The seat has received a red brown vallejo for the structure and oil colors for the cushion (mars black; naples pink yellow and white for reflections). The pit construction did not present any problems, the pieces fit perfectly, the only poetic license the area behind the seat is painted in aluminum thanks to a photo of a restored spit and perhaps not entirely faithful to the original as the area should be too in green, but all in all I don't feel sorry for which I kept it like this (you will see very little). Ok stop talk and let's go whit the pictures Closing fuselage and wings. I noticed a real remarkable work by Eduard in the design of the cuts of the pieces and the precision of the joints; practically there is almost no need for putty except for a couple of points in the wing fitting where I scratched too much to remove the sprue and a couple of my mistakes, everything went in place without problems. Here are the self-explanatory pictures For now it's all and as usual CCC (criticisms, comments and compliments) always welcome. Until next time 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Great progress so far! I'm working on the Weekend edition MkIX, turning it into the Silver Spitfire roundtheworld flight. Yes the detail and fit is very fine and precise. There is zero tolerance! I had trouble with the wing bottom fitting underneath the fuselage and cockpit, but I got there in the end. I think it's open, but it is small. This is from a 3view.... of earlier type. Can you make out an opening here? The one on the top of the other side is definitely an open intake, here, I haven't done many Eduard kits but I really like the quality of this one, and your p.e. details are a real bonus. I'd like to follow along Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Very nice work so far. 👍🏻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 I can’t resist a Spitfire build so I will watch if I may. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus2000 Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) Hi everyone, thanks for comments. Let's go, since at the end of a model I can't wait to finish it and inevitably parts like main carriages, propellers and so on are neglected a bit because my mind is already tuned towards a new project, I decided to finish before these then move on to the entire plane's painting job, so quickly put the photos of the main carriage and propeller already finished, to main carriage I have only added a 0.3mm lead wire to simulate the brake line, the legs are in aluminum ModelMaster with the piston in polished aluminum sheet to simulate the chrome, the whole washed with cassel earth thinned in White spirit, will then be treated with earth pigments once mounted. The propeller has nothing special, color, gloss, decal, opaque transparent and some chipping in aluminum ModelMaster, here are the self-explanatory photos Ok that I love: preshading and color. For the lower part I used a bleached blue with a little gray for the first pass, I added black for the main panels and inspection doors and then finished with the very light base color for the highlights. I bought the AK interactive Real Color set dedicated to Raf in the desert, it is the first time I use them and I found myself really well, I diluted them more than 50% recommended to have greater control of the coverage in order to give more transparent passes and decide on the amount of visible preshading. Unfortunately the photos flatten the final effect very much, I hope to take better pictures once the protection of the lower surfaces has been removed, for now settle for these. The sequence is: blue, blue + black, blue + white diluted at 90%, Azzure blue AK diluted at 60-70% For the upper surfaces I used preshading for a chocolate brown for the base, adding black for the main pannelling, an Xf78 wooden tan deck for the lights and the latter lightened with white for extreme lights all diluted at 90% in isopropyl alcool.Let say the pictures. For now it's all .I'm going to go crazy to mask for the Dark heart, strictly with the tape because I want sharp edges. As always C.C.C. welcome Edited September 15, 2019 by spartacus2000 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 That's a pretty thorough and well thought out painting process. And good luck with the masking. My only comment..... And I'm not a Spitfire expert!.... but I think all these propeller blades on Spitfires are the Rotol type. They aren't aluminium or metal. They're a man-made fibre and resin type composite that is natural black. So not metallic chipping. But check before you do anything! I could be wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus2000 Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 Many tnx Rob after a fast sarch on the net I've found this link spit propeller So I'll fix my mistake asap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 hour ago, spartacus2000 said: 48 minutes ago, rob Lyttle said: but I think all these propeller blades on Spitfires are the Rotol type. They aren't aluminium or metal. They're a man-made fibre and resin type composite that is natural black. So not metallic chipping. Compressed wood composite, Jablo was one type. The coloured discs on the blades show the blade type fitted. the leading edge was sheathed in brass, and this did get chipped. Spitfire maintenance by Etienne du Plessis, on Flickr note green blade logos, and some very minor chiping this Mk.XIV, with Rotol blades IIRC, note red logos, has some some quite impressive chipping which is being shown up by the light, note brass colour. Spitfire XIVE by Etienne du Plessis, on Flickr both from here https://www.flickr.com/search/?w=8270787@N07&q=spitfire Some desert ones, but really useful for getting a feel for weathering and staining, The leading edge "D" section of Spitfire wings was a thicker gauge metal, and the flush rivets were filled and sanded down, making them practically invisible in 1/1 The Eduard kits ignore this and has lots of rivets. while not desert, this is really good for a worn but well cared for airframe, note prop blades, and where chipping (minimal) occurs, as well as stains and streaks. Spitfire Mk.IXC 1945 by Etienne du Plessis, on Flickr and, remembered this, a USAAF Mk.VIII IIRC, evidently marks on prop blades occur more on the back.... brass leading edge.... hopefully complements the other linked post PS https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235041965-geoffrey-wellums-tribute/&do=findComment&comment=3106729 HTH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus2000 Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 tnx Troy very helpfull 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus2000 Posted September 17, 2019 Author Share Posted September 17, 2019 Hi everyone, here's a little step forward Finished camouflage. I must say that I am very satisfied with the real color AK, very fine finish, they spread very well and the resistance to masking is very good. I also used the tape for the coachbuilder and the paint has suffered in very few points considering that I've not primerized the kit. Here are the photos that I know are what you are interested in, they are self-explanatory so no extra comments The mistake of propeller was fixed now can be chipped in brass I have decided to paint the English marks to have a uniformity of weathering , the obliterations of the old codes , the stars and new codes will have a newer appearance OFF TOPIC Yesterday my wife gave me this .... I ENJOY !!!!!! I've already licked it a bit I noticed a bizarre thing about the squadron leader of the 85th squadron +H Become So as a big fan of the Who I can only reproduce this plane. Seriously I can't wait to get my hands on it even though I know there will be a lot of work to do. For this night it's all 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 these may help faded desert with fresh paint RCAF Spitfire V, 1943. by Etienne du Plessis, on Flickr there are a few Mk.VIII's at the bottom here https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Spitfire/USAAF-31FG.html as i got on a roll with the brass edging.. as for the big Hurricane, with a few comments from me. HTH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus2000 Posted September 17, 2019 Author Share Posted September 17, 2019 tnx Troy as usual you are very usefull whit your intervent. Seam that the WD W have the code EN 354 hand painted and not stencilled very intresting the Eduard decal are wrong. The mk 5 are almost white can be an idea for the next spit P.S. No stencils at all for desert camo,right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Lovely painting you have going on here. Good luck with the big one. 🙌 John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus2000 Posted September 21, 2019 Author Share Posted September 21, 2019 Hello to all . Small step washes and beginning of wheaterhing. For the first one I used a brown of cassel diluted in whit spirit, I only used this color without the black because being little covering so I could decide the quantity of color for each panel. It is true that it is almost all uniform, but it is me served for the lower surfaces where I wanted to be a bit more light, I also decided to profile only the main panels, the rivets I wanted them only visible but not accentuated given the degree of wear of the paint would have been out of place. weathering is carried out with flat clear stained with a drop of white then I've used ocher, light ocher and dark ocher pastels. all given with a brush and then solvated, this is still an initial phase of the work without having fixed anything yet so I can wash it all away and estart the process if no satisfying. here are the pictures Ok for now it's all bye 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 On 17/09/2019 at 22:40, spartacus2000 said: tnx Troy as usual you are very usefull whit your intervent. Seam that the WD W have the code EN 354 hand painted and not stencilled very intresting the Eduard decal are wrong. The mk 5 are almost white can be an idea for the next spit P.S. No stencils at all for desert camo,right I think the photo is a bit blurry, and I suspect the EN354 is stencilled. I presume there is a much better quality photo out there than the above. If the plane was built in desert colours, it would have stencilling. 23 hours ago, spartacus2000 said: For the first one I used a brown of cassel diluted in whit spirit, instead of White Spirit, try lighter fuel, it's very volatile and evaporates really fast, and dries fast too, and makes really thin washes. this roundel is in the wrong place RCAF Spitfire Mk V, 1943. by Etienne du Plessis, on Flickr also, Merlin engines leak A LOT of oil.. Spitfire Mk.Vc by Etienne du Plessis, on Flickr also, leading edge yellow strips were usually in NW Europe, though this has them Spitfire Vb...............SAAF by Etienne du Plessis, on Flickr while only NW Europe, this has a lot of detail of general use https://boxartden.com/reference/gallery/index.php/Modeling-References/Camoflage-Markings/01-Supermarine-Spitfire HTH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus2000 Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) Tnx Troy usefull I've fixed my mistake but I've followed Eduard guide that put the roundel far ahead. This night I'll place he decals. Question 1 roundel & 1star or 2 roundel in lower surface? I hope an answer before placing I'vnt no extra star,Eduard give the 2 options if 1st option I must search a new yellow circled star in my kit depot. Edited September 23, 2019 by spartacus2000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus2000 Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 Yes the goal is approaching, the Spit is almost finished, some things remain to do but the big job has been done. I wanted to give the model a really worn and somewhat unkempt look due to hyperactivity and the desert climate that certainly does not help the good maintenance of the vehicle. Obviously there is no opaque coat as I have to adjust the pigments a bit, and some accessories such as the various lights, the antenna, the door and then finally glue the canopy and propeller. Pictures Last considerations, the kit mounts really well, the decals on the other hand drove me crazy while being Cartograf I struggled in detaching from the support, even 5 minutes waiting to soak, and then the difficulty to make them slide on the model, I used both the microsol and Mr. soft but as you can see they don't adhering to the panels, silvering problems even after a generous coat of gloss on the zone and on the wings I noticed a rippling principle that I hope will disappear with the matt coat. As usual C.C.C.s always welcome 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy350 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Very nice indeed. With the weathering, do you thin down a colour mix and then apply all over with a brush? also, how are the scratches applied? I've almost finished by Mk.1a 1/24 and want to weather slightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus2000 Posted September 28, 2019 Author Share Posted September 28, 2019 Hi Andy tnx I've used soft pastel from Rembrant or W&N (U can read exactily color above in the tread) reduced in powder then passed whit a brush,thin passage up to desired effect.fix all whit a clear coat. Wash whit oil (cassel brown and a little black thinned in petrol or light essence as Troy suggest) then flat coat prepare the surface for pigment(I've useed Mig black smoke,desert earth). Scratch whit sponge and brush, I prefer the second metod that are more controllable,the sponge metod for diffuse scrath. Oil stain from Mig(a gelly mix very convincent). But the 1st thing"patience" then "patience",thik 3 time before aply scrath must be pertinent. For any help feel free to ask 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) On 9/22/2019 at 4:26 PM, Troy Smith said: this roundel is in the wrong place Hya. Excuse my ignorance but why is it in the wrong place? Where should it be? To my eye it looks like the one in the pic. Interested as my own bird will be ready for decals soon enough. oh and @spartacus2000 lovely job with the paint. I’m looking forward to my own Brown and green dabblings leater on. I’m looking at this as you have a very similar technique to my own. Lovely stuff. 👍 John. Edited September 30, 2019 by The Spadgent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy350 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 2 hours ago, spartacus2000 said: Hi Andy tnx I've used soft pastel from Rembrant or W&N (U can read exactily color above in the tread) reduced in powder then passed whit a brush,thin passage up to desired effect.fix all whit a clear coat. Wash whit oil (cassel brown and a little black thinned in petrol or light essence as Troy suggest) then flat coat prepare the surface for pigment(I've useed Mig black smoke,desert earth). Scratch whit sponge and brush, I prefer the second metod that are more controllable,the sponge metod for diffuse scrath. Oil stain from Mig(a gelly mix very convincent). But the 1st thing"patience" then "patience",thik 3 time before aply scrath must be pertinent. For any help feel free to ask Hi, thanks for the info. All sounds above my level right now. I will have another read of your thread thanks. I'll post up a pic of where I am now. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 9 hours ago, The Spadgent said: Hya. Excuse my ignorance but why is it on the wrong place? Where should it be? To my eye it looks like the one in the pic. Hi Johnny see here the one originally applied was too far forward and too far out. 9 hours ago, The Spadgent said: Interested as my own bird will be ready for decals soon enough. as in your Hurricane? There is a Ducimus guide for that as well. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 On 9/28/2019 at 8:15 PM, Troy Smith said: Hi Johnny see here the one originally applied was too far forward and too far out. as in your Hurricane? There is a Ducimus guide for that as well. Thanks for the info. I’m glad I asked beforehand. 😇😀🙌 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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