757flyer Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Can't recall seeing the wingtip rails worn by this Dutch Stretch Herc: Are the rails an ECM/RWR/Self-Defense system? Thanks! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Ranger Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) I have it on good authority that those "rails" are actually antennae for the Raytheon-duMont Turboencabulator System.😁 Seriously, here's a more plausible explanation, from a friend who is the former USAF C-130 Field Training Manager: "Even though I've never seen that thing before, I still might get in dutch for revealing this, but... It looks like an antenna array ECM. Note the dielectric material at each end. "A few years ago Netherlands, Norway, Denmark and maybe others pooled their resources to participate in the NATO-Russian Open Skies treaty allowing nuclear compliance overflights through signatories' airspace. Their innovative concept was to develop a palletized kit of appropriate sensors that could be loaded aboard any partner's properly fitted C-130. The system includes a large external sensor pod of the same size and shape as a standard Hercules external tank. The pod would replace one of the existing external tanks for the mission. Wiring would be permanently routed through the wing to a connection with the pallet. The item near the port wing tip is semi-permanently mounted. It could do double duty: ECM and Open Skies depending on the mission pallet. Of course it could also support a cutting edge Phillips/Blaupunkt Turboencabulator System." Edited September 3, 2019 by Space Ranger Add'l. info. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Alpha Yankee Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Not that is helps much, there was a build of a Dutch C-130 some years ago here which included said 'rails'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob de Bie Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 On 9/3/2019 at 3:51 PM, 757flyer said: Can't recall seeing the wingtip rails worn by this Dutch Stretch Herc:. Are the rails an ECM/RWR/Self-Defense system? ALR-69 according the an extensive Hercules article in the IPMS-NL magazine 'Modelbouw in Plastic', 1996 issue 4, by Bas Damen and Meindert de Vreeze. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Ranger Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Rob de Bie said: ALR-69 according the an extensive Hercules article in the IPMS-NL magazine 'Modelbouw in Plastic', 1996 issue 4, by Bas Damen and Meindert de Vreeze. Rob How would one go about obtaining a copy of that extensive article? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob de Bie Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) 20 hours ago, Space Ranger said: How would one go about obtaining a copy of that extensive article? All IPMS-NL magazines are available as PDFs from the website, but you need a login. I made a download link of the C-130H article itself on my own website, although it's probably not the intention of IPMS-NL. The alternative is that I download the magazine and send you the PDF, so there's not much difference. One of the writers (Meindert) is also active on this forum, possible he will intervene 🙂 Rob Edited September 5, 2019 by Rob de Bie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meindert Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 As Rob noted, use the "download link" in message above to see the C-130H article PDF. In addition have a look at the IPMS.NL walkaround of the C-130 that includes the Royal Netherlands Air Force (KLu) aircraft: https://www.ipms.nl/walkarounds/walkaround-vliegtuigen-props/546-walkaround-c130 and also some info about the KLu operations at: https://www.ipms.nl/artikelen/nedmil-luchtvaart/vliegtuigen-l/vliegtuigen-l-lockheed-c130 (Articles are in Dutch so use Google Translate for your mother language) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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