Homebee Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) LF Moldels is to release a family of Sikorsky S-51/H-5 and Westland WS-51Dragonfly kits - ref. PE7228 - Sikorsky H-5F/H-5G Sources: https://www.lfmodels.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_26_86&products_id=3036&zenid=984offqjarqn3gpnbeo3fkuce2 https://www.aviationmegastore.com/sikorsky-h-5fh-5g-pe-7228-lf-models-pe-7228-aircraft-scale-modelling/product/?action=prodinfo&art=165043 - ref. PE7229 - Westland Sikorsky WS-51 Drangonfly HR.Mk.1A Indochina War Sources: https://www.lfmodels.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_26_86&products_id=3044&zenid=984offqjarqn3gpnbeo3fkuce2 https://www.aviationmegastore.com/westland-sikorsky-ws51-dragonfly-mk1a-indochina-war-pe-7229-lf-models-pe-7229-aircraft-scale-modelling/product/?action=prodinfo&art=165044 - ref. PE7230 - Sikorski S-51/WS-51 Dragonfly Netherlands, Yugoslavia & Italy Sources: https://www.lfmodels.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_26_86&products_id=3045&zenid=984offqjarqn3gpnbeo3fkuce2 https://www.aviationmegastore.com/westland-sikorsky-ws-51-dragonfly-holland-yugoslavia-italy-pe-7230-lf-models-pe-7230-aircraft-scale-modelling/product/?action=prodinfo&art=165045 - ref. PE7230 - Westland Sikorsky WS-51 Drangonfly HR.Mk.3 Sources: https://www.lfmodels.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_26_86&products_id=3039&zenid=984offqjarqn3gpnbeo3fkuce2 https://www.aviationmegastore.com/westland-sikorsky-ws-51-dragonfly-hrmk3-pe-7231-lf-models-pe-7231-aircraft-scale-modelling/product/?action=prodinfo&art=165046 V.P. Edited September 11, 2023 by Homebee 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis_C Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Let me be the first to say hurraaaayyyyy!!! I think this would be a major seller! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basuroy Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 New tool or Mach-2 kit rebox ? Mikromir also announced this as their next project recently . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis_C Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Basuroy said: New tool or Mach-2 kit rebox ? Mikromir also announced this as their next project recently . Does not look like a Mach2 rebox. Mach2 has cabin all from transparent (almost transparent ) plastic. Here it's solved differently. BTW there is a sprues photo on the manufacturer's web-page. Edited August 25, 2019 by Dennis_C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trenton guy Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Based on the sprue shots, I’m sure they are not MACH 2. Available now from the LF website. Mine are ordered. Don’t look easy but they do look like a good result is possible with effort. That’s more than you can say about the MACH 2 or long ago MPM kits. The Italian markings confirm my belief that Italeri should have given us this one a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted August 25, 2019 Author Share Posted August 25, 2019 Source: https://www.lfmodels.com/images/lfmodels/PE7228_2.jpg V.P. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalea Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Plan on at least 2. Surely there has got to be a USN/Marines one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 I can't quite understand why two different S-51 / Dragonfly kits (LF & AMP) have suddenly turned up, while the S-55 / Whirlwind family is still ignored. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesP Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 20 hours ago, 71chally said: I can't quite understand why two different S-51 / Dragonfly kits (LF & AMP) have suddenly turned up, while the S-55 / Whirlwind family is still ignored. 51 comes before 55 😝 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomohawk Kid Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) Those sprue shots do indeed look suspiciously like the Mach 2 kit. If this kits does turns out to be a reboxing of the Mach 2 kit, it is niether fish nor fowl, being neither truly a S-51 and definatley not a Dragonfly. Putting to one side if this kit has Mach 2 origins or not, whilst the line drawings on the box art looks roughly correct for a Westland Dragonfly, the sprue shots are not. Either there are some additional parts in the kit not shown, or some major surgery to the fuselage is required to produce a Dragonfly as well as altering the grillage and exhaust arrangements. To make a decent S-51 the transistion from the lower fuselage to the tail boom requires altering to sweep up more aerodynamically. Furthermore, the glazing variations on both the S-51 and Dragonfly was myriad, so check those refererences. Tommo. Edited August 28, 2019 by The Tomohawk Kid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gengriz Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) Its not the Mach 2 sprue - see below. Very similar parts breakdown though, but much finer moulding and different layout Edited August 29, 2019 by gengriz clarification 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 I 'spose I'm a bit soon to be wanting a Widgeon conversion. Steve. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 Test build Source: https://www.lfmodels.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_26_86&products_id=3036&zenid=crkduh9o7nqbb2p9ltjdgk1hq5 V.P. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho590hm Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Two rotor blade types included - I assume the constant section one is the metal blade, but the chord seems a bit wide against the images that I have for the RN examples. Any thoughts anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 New boxing - ref. PE7238 - Westland Sikorsky WS-51 Dragonfly Thai, Ceylon, Japan Source: https://www.lfmodels.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=3135&zenid=rh0146un447o51g0jqen0pe1b2 - ref. PE7239 - Sikorsky S-51 Civil users Source: https://www.lfmodels.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=3136&zenid=rh0146un447o51g0jqen0pe1b2 - ref. PE7240 - Sikorsky S-51 Persil promoted helicopter Source: https://www.lfmodels.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=3139&zenid=rh0146un447o51g0jqen0pe1b2 - ref. PE7241 - Sikorsky S-51 France, Argentina, Venezuela Source: https://www.lfmodels.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=3137&zenid=rh0146un447o51g0jqen0pe1b2 - ref. PE7242 - Sikorsky HO3S-1G US Coast Guard Source: https://www.lfmodels.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=3138&zenid=rh0146un447o51g0jqen0pe1b2 V.P. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of men Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Yah! Civil users! I know which boxing I'll be getting now.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branky Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 More civil versions coming eg PH-HAA as well as a SAAF kit so get ready for a lot more S51's 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denford Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 There's also an RAF version with two machines of 194 Squadron at Kuala Lumpur and one other. The first, an ex RN machine as shown by the 'different' lower rear fuselage, is wrongly coded. It should be VZ960 The decal sheet has three roundels. Unless one is a spare for errors, it is redundant. Only Sycamores ever used them under the fuselage and then not always. Hannants code is LFPE77234 and some details are visible there. The kit looks to be a 'challenging' build eg with the main rotor blades butt joined to the rotor head.... If anyone wants a good insight of helicopter operations in Malaya (including S51 operations) I cannot recommend too highly 'The first Helicopter Boys' by David Taylor. The service record and fate of every S-51, S-55 and Sycamore is listed along with much, much more. It will also provide or be a guide to some missing data from the kit instructions: here I have some sympathy for LF Models in the Czech Republic as the specific data would have been hard to research. This book now provides some of the answers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Thanks, Denford! Book ordered, now I just hope someone makes a masking set for these, as, uh, I bought three boxings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) The RAF HC.2/4 boxing is here, https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/LFPE7234 And another FAA HR.1/5 here, https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/LFPE7235 The third roundel is for the underside, aft end of the fuselage. Personally, I'm going to wait for the announced AMP 72nd versions of their 48th kit. Edited November 21, 2019 by 71chally 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trenton guy Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 5 hours ago, 71chally said: The RAF HC.2/4 boxing is here, https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/LFPE7234 And another FAA HR.1/5 here, https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/LFPE7235 The third roundel is for the underside, aft end of the fuselage. Personally, I'm going to wait for the announced AMP 72nd versions of their 48th kit. I have the KF kit and have seen Sprue shots of the AMP kit. IMHOP, waiting is a wise decision. I as going to do so before building. The LF kit is quite nice but the individual separate windows could pose a challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denford Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 7 hours ago, Procopius said: Thanks, Denford! Book ordered, now I just hope someone makes a masking set for these, as, uh, I bought three boxings. It is my intention to build the fuselage as an 'empty frame' without clear parts. Pack interior with tissue or whatever, spray, then add windows followed by interior. That way only the front part would need masking: its corners are slightly 'rounded off' right angles so shouldn't be too difficult to make masking, at least that's what I am hoping. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denford Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 6 hours ago, 71chally said: The RAF HC.2/4 boxing is here, https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/LFPE7234 And another FAA HR.1/5 here, https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/LFPE7235 The third roundel is for the underside, aft end of the fuselage. Personally, I'm going to wait for the announced AMP 72nd versions of their 48th kit. I've yet to see a 194 Squadron so marked (roundel under rear fuselage). Some FAA machines had a third roundel so it might have been 'carried over' from the ex FAA example. That said, it's not shown on the Painting and Marking diagram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I've definitely seen pictures of roundels underneath camo'd Dragonflys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denford Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, 71chally said: I've definitely seen pictures of roundels underneath camo'd Dragonflys. If you can recall where, could you advise. It's my intention to model either XB251 or 252, one of which visited my unit (the only Dragonfly visit before they were replaced by Sycamores) March/April 1956 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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