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Talbot Lago Record 1950, 1:24 scale, by Heller


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Hi all :)

 

Have had a great time in Morocco, but, since I came back home 10  days ago, I've been very busy at my office, except on Wednesday and sunday.

I hoped to have time to begin the painting of the body, but I hadn't.

Anyways, it rained every day, and this wasn't the best weather to paint outdoors, even when it stopped raining.

 

So, as I would like to have an opening hood, after having studied the way @harveyb258 has gone to manufacture his piano hinges, I've decided to try to do quite the same thing, but at 1:24 scale.

I don't know actually if I'll catch up, but I'm on my way :)

 

First, I've to confess that I took some liberties with the real system which was used on these luxury cars to allow the opening of each half of the hood.

Indeed, when you look at the hood of this type of cars, you can see that the two halves are separated by a chromed rail, and not joined, at least not apparently, by piano hinges !

In reality, the chromed rail is a protective cover below which is hidden the real opening system of the hood.

Some pics below  (gathered without any permission on Jalopy journal.com  😯) to explain the system as somebody and I are thinking it probably was on the true car (If anybody think It's wrong, fell free to make any critics he wants) :) :

 

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Clearly, it's impossible to reproduce this system at 1:24 scale, so I'll intend to replace this part by a piano hinge, no realistic at all on this type of cars, but very useful for my purpose :)

 

The part provided by Heller to figure the opening system and its protective cover is the following:

 

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Rather similar to the real protective chromed rail, but allowing only a static representation of the hood.

 

I just can't accept this fact, and I'll decide to this only if I fail to make a convincing piano hinge.

 

Let's go, chaps

 

Stay tuned if you like and thanks for watching :)

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, rob Lyttle said:

Ah.... You had me wondering for a minute, @CrazyCrank......

 

You're talking about the BONNET....!! 

Over the engine, yes? 

Now I get it. 

Looking forward to seeing what you can work out with that... 👍

 

Hood, bonnet ? same things, isn't it ?

If not, sorry for my bad English, and a little explanation would be appreciated, Rob :)

 

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17 minutes ago, Graham Boak said:

In English English, the bonnet is what Americans call the hood, whereas the hood is what open-top sports cars put up when it is raining.

Aaaaaahhhh, OK, so I understand why my younger son, who lives in Canada, wear hoodies when it rains !....... (to protect his brain ?) :)

 

OK, so, please, if you read hood in my thread , please, let you replace by BONNET !

 

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Evening Chaps :)

 

Let's go for this new challenge !

 

I used a scraped piece of brass plate 0.3 mm thick, a brass tube 1 mm outer diameter, 0.5 mm inner, magnifier glasses, a set of diamond files and my last Christmas gift:  a bocfil (small hand saw for jewelry cutting)

 

On my brass plate, along with the straight side, at 1 mm of it, I drew a 60 mm length line (the same as the bonnet has) with a tracing point, and then a second line at 3 mm of the first one

 

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Then with the bocfil and a 0.3 mm blade, I cut, perpendicularly to the side of the brass plate, several notches of slightly more than 1 mm, each one spaced from the previous one by 3 mm, and I got this:

 

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The next step was to make 3 mm width indents  on this plate, each of them spaced from the previous one by a 3 mm. I used a tiny diamond file to do that, and I got this:

 

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Then, I welded a 60 mm length brass tube over the straight side of the plate, covering the indents previously done, and I got this:

 

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And at last, I cut the brass tube each 3 mm, to remove the parts witch were not soldered on the plate, and I got this:

 

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So, I've quite finished to make half of my piano hinge, and, to let you understand how it is  supposed to work, this last picture, where you can see a 0.5 mm piano wire threaded through  the brass tube parts:

 

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It remains to cut the half hinge out of the brass plate, and then, to make the second half :)

 

Stay tuned if you like, and thanks for watching :)

 

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Thanks a lot for you kind words, guys :)

But you should wait I achieve the second half of the bonnet, because I'm not sure to become successfull, and then it will remain to adapt the halves together !

"C'est pas gagné !" as we say in France ! ("That's not a given !")

 

 

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10 hours ago, CrazyCrank said:

Thanks a lot for you kind words, guys :)

But you should wait I achieve the second half of the bonnet, because I'm not sure to become successfull, and then it will remain to adapt the halves together !

"C'est pas gagné !" as we say in France ! ("That's not a given !")

 

 

Even if it's not 100% successful that's still a fantastic piece of building. Fingers crossed the second half comes out as well.

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1st half hinge has been cut off the plate with my jeweler saw, and cleaned.

 

The cut is not perfectly straight, but the part will be hidden under the bonnet, and once glued and painted, it won't be noticed as much !

 

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The lower face of one half bonnet has been prepared, in order to receive the flat side of the half-hinge, which is wider than the corresponding part of the Heller's provided plastic piece:

 

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Dry fit on a half-bonnet, upper view and underside:

 

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Now, I'm gonna begin the work for second half-hinge.

 

It doesn't remain a lot of hardware (0.3 mm brass plate) but I think that It will do it !

If not, then, we are looking for the delivery of my recent order of some thin brass plates (0.12 mm, 0.20 mm, 0.25 mm and 0.30 mm thickness) at Micro-models.fr

 

Stay tuned if you like and thanks for watching :)

 

 

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Hi Chaps :)

 

I know it's very early in the morning, but I've just finished to make the second half of the piano hinge.

 

The two halves have been assembled with the 0.5 mm piano wire: that was no fun doing it, because tubes are not strictly aligned.

But finally it has has enough rigidity to not contort, and enough flexibility to work fine and smoothly.

 

 

Some photos below:

 

 

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A short video (sorry for the very poor quality ) ☹️

 

 

 

 

 

It has to be done:

 

- cutting off properly the second half hinge

- nickel plating the hinge

- preparing the second half of the bonnet

- and  gluing the hinge on the two parts of he bonnet

 

To give you an idea of what I'll get after that:

 

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Frankly, I'm not perfectly happy with this result:

 

- the "tubes" of the two half-hinges are not perfectly aligned

- and underwent little damages during the welding steps (because of the clamps)

- they have not strictly the same length and there's gaps between several of them (well, on the magnified picture above...of course, but you can really can't see it with the naked eye )

 

but I can live with...I'll try to do better next time 😲

 

Actually, I've added to the kit 84 scratched parts, and that's not the end 😉

 

 Stay tuned if you like and thanks for watching :)

 

 

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Amazing result Thierry, maybe not perfect in your eyes but who can say he has done better? It certainly adds something to the car, I can't wait to see the end result. 

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Piano hinges nickel plated :)

 

What's matter is the plating of the axle tubes, the rest of it will be hidden 🙄

 

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Now, I must paint the bonnet (and the body at the same time), and then put some coats of gloss clear, before gluing the hinges....We are lucky, it stopped raining this morning and there's no wind :)

 

Stay tunes if you like 😉

 

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Absolutely amazed at what you have made there! 

So I clicked on the little video, and I continued to be amazed!! 

 

And when it finished, it did what YouTube does........ It cued up the next of your videos - 

The one featuring the Bugatti throttle linkages working.....!!! 🤩😮

Man....... That's off the scale. 

I was waiting for you to turn the key and start the engine up! 

 

So, good luck with the painting. 

I'm staying tuned as I like! 

😎

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Hi guys :)

 

The body and the bonnet have received 2 layers of Tamiya TS 10 ("French Blue")

 

In between layers, I've slightly sanded the paint with Tamiya Sponge 3000, and repaired from the inside (with a drop of CA) a micro-crack of the plastic on the left half of the bonnet. Hope it will resist to the next sanding steps (before clear, after clear and polishing with Tamiya compound), otherwise I'll have to purchase a new kit and a new paint can to redo the job on this weak part (And frankly, I wouldn't like to spend 35 euros only for that !) ☹️

 

It remains in some places a micro orange peel appearance, but nothing that cannot be improved by a good sanding 😉

 

I'm rather happy with the result, and I hope you'll appreciate it too:

 

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Now, I've to wait at least a week for paint drying, before sanding and apply the clear coats, because of the cold weather and very humid air

 

Thanks for watching :)

 

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Let it dry, let it dry.... difficult when you are impatient to apply varnish on a so beautiful car body.

 

Meanwhile, some scratch for little bits here and there:

 

1/ interior rear-view mirror: curiously, Heller has forgotten this important accessory !

 

- Drill a 0.7 mm hole at the appropriate place on the top of dashboard

- use à 0.5 mm thick plastic card and cut two pieces: the first one approximatively 1.5 mm x 3.5 mm (round the corners with a scalpel blade) and the second one 1.0 mm x 2.5 mm

- Glue the smallest at the back of the other (center it strictly ). You have the body f the mirror !

- From the back at the centre of the smallest part, drilled a 0.7 mm hole, no more than 0.7 mm depth

- Take a 0.65 mm copper or brass rod, it doesn't matter what metal you use

- Bend it 120° at one end.

- Glue it you CA in the hole of the plastic part.

- And now, apply Chrome Bare Metal Foil at the front of the greatest plastic part

- Paint Semi gloss black the body of the mirror

- It's done ! (It remains to chrome he support arm of the mirror: this will be done with Molotow chrome, once the mirror glued in place)

 

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2/ The radio of the car:

 

As you can see on the photo below, there was a radio in the Talbot Lago Heller took for model (Bodywork by DUBOS, Rochetaillée Museum).

I've intended to scratch it,  using pieces of plastic car, glued together and shaped, and copper rod 0.65 mm diameter for the two buttons (On/sound volume, and radio frequency tuning)

The set has been glued at the back of the dashboard , and is waiting for its paints.

 

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That's all for now, stay tuned if you like ;)

 

 

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