Milo Burgh Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Hi all. I just saw this video of USS Ranger launching P-40 planes to North Africa. Any clue what the upper colour is? Bottom I would say is Neutral Grey. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtjeJynhFtw Thanks. Milo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 At a guess it would be Desert Sand which was typical in The North African area of operations. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Ranger Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I'm thinking Sand, too; they look to be too light to be Olive Drab. Interesting piece of film. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Here's a link that works: Chris 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I've built one of these P-40's and I used Sand ANA-616. Has a pink-ish hue to it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I think Humbrol 250 would also do the job for one of these, Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewerjerry Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) Hi O/t but there is a P-40 photo with tailhook ? and catapult launch in this thread here http://eaaforums.org/showthread.php?6107-A-naval-version-for-Warhaw cheers jerry Edited August 20, 2019 by brewerjerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan B. Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Pretty sure those are P-40Fs of the 57th FG bound for Accra, 19 July, 1942. Called Desert Sand, it's frequently referred to as Desert Pink. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expositor Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 What looks like a tailhook might be a catapult hold-down or release bar/line. I don' t believe there were any P-40's set up to be carrier capable like the P-39 or -51. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc72 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Interesting footage! BTW: did these USAAF pilots ever practised taking off from a carrier before? It must have been quiet scary... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
politicni komisar Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Upper suffaces Desert Sand .no 3 apox F.s 30277 before 43 below Neutral gray . By.P.k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Doc72 said: Interesting footage! BTW: did these USAAF pilots ever practised taking off from a carrier before? It must have been quiet scary... You would expect there to be a very thorough briefing on ditching procedure in case it all goes quiet at a critical moment. But they may well not have needed specific carrier launch experience beforehand. For an unaccelerated, free take-off from a carrier deck no special piloting training is really needed. You already have loads of airspeed over the deck even before you start moving: so directional control is much easier than the start of an airfield take-off: just keep it straight and fly off the end. Ranger did 29 knots on her own, and carriers always steam into wind for launch. So if you're steaming into the common 15-20 knot wind (pretty normal) then you're already at mid 40s to almost 50 knots airspeed when you start rolling. You can see from the film that the controls are full of power right from the start of the roll. All you need to to is wait a few seconds and you're flying. As long as you hold direction, and keep the nose attitude where you would for any other short field take-off, there's really nothing else to be done. Landing without proper training, on the other hand... (Though even that was done during WW2, as in the case of the Gladiators, and even more remarkably seven Hurricanes, which landed on HMS Glorious, with no tailhooks and no deck landing experience, during the evacuation from Norway - a startling piece airmanship, sadly all for nothing as she was sunk shortly afterwards) Edited August 20, 2019 by Work In Progress 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buz Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) As stated above its Sand, yet slightly pink. This was painted directly over the OD, with the unders remaining NG. Picture is from the Life photos. P40 Tunisia-Libya by Buz 1970, on Flickr Buz Edited August 20, 2019 by Buz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Burgh Posted August 20, 2019 Author Share Posted August 20, 2019 11 hours ago, Luka said: I've built one of these P-40's and I used Sand ANA-616. Has a pink-ish hue to it. Too early for an ANA number? 4 hours ago, politicni komisar said: Upper suffaces Desert Sand .no 3 apox F.s 30277 before 43 below Neutral gray . By.P.k That colour looks too dark, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck1945 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Milo Burgh said: Too early for an ANA number? ANA 616 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Burgh Posted August 20, 2019 Author Share Posted August 20, 2019 I mean that July 42 is too early for ANA system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Milo Burgh said: I mean that July 42 is too early for ANA system. Then probably Sand 49; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Burgh Posted August 20, 2019 Author Share Posted August 20, 2019 Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noelh Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 They would make a nice model subject. Very clean condition too. On the rudder of the last one coming up on elevator is that Betty Boop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crankycraftsman Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 The 325th fighter group, made up of the 317th, 318th and 319th fighter squadrons flew of of the USS Ranger to Africa to eventually become the famous "Checkertails". They started on P-40Fs then P-47 Razorbacks then P-51Ds. Ron G 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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