corsaircorp Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Hello Rob !! Good idea !! When I saw her first time on the web ... But you beat me on this one... Then I still have 3 Spitfires on the go !! I'll follow, Will stay quiet at the bar !! Nice start man !! Sincerely. CC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted August 19, 2019 Author Share Posted August 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, corsaircorp said: I still have 3 Spitfires on the go !! None in shining bare metal...?? 😎 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsaircorp Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, rob Lyttle said: None in shining bare metal...?? 😎 No, not on these 3... I'll start some Mk V and Then !! it will be the Caldwell's one !! CC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 2 hours ago, rob Lyttle said: Yea I was looking at those, trying to figure them out. Reinforcement panels?? They don't exist in ordinary Mk IX wings, do they? I'm in 1.48 here by the way, no way I'm going to tackle these items in 72! They were introduced on post war aircraft ( I think ) and appear on lots of 'warbird' rebuilds. Their purpose was to add more depth to the wheel well for wider tyres.   John 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Not quite, they were to allow for different axle mounting angles for operation from hard surfaces. This meant a slightly different angle as the tyre sat in the well. IIRC Edgar Brooks found the modification details. Some of the in-service spitfires had cutouts in the wing and patches added. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenBills Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 So I was looking at photos again, and are these not cannon blisters? Â 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim T Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 I am delighted to see someone building G-IRTY!   There was an interview on the Dermot O'Leary BBC Radio 2 programme a few weeks ago. It might still be on iPlayer. One thing I do recall is that there was an additional fuel tank from one of the PR Spitfires that was fitted behind the cockpit. The history is fascinating and I can only wish these guys the best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Graham Boak said: Not quite, they were to allow for different axle mounting angles for operation from hard surfaces. This meant a slightly different angle as the tyre sat in the well. IIRC Edgar Brooks found the modification details. Some of the in-service spitfires had cutouts in the wing and patches added. I knew I’d get it wrong! I thought the change in geometry came with the Mk V. Just ignore anything else I say.  John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted August 19, 2019 Author Share Posted August 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Tim T said: an additional fuel tank from one of the PR Spitfires A-Ha! That's given us a clue, Tim Did the PR version get filled up in this style, through the side window? I'm still researching the wings for definitive info. Starting to think there's a fair bit of photoshop and image-conjuring going on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsaircorp Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 6 hours ago, StevenBills said: So I was looking at photos again, and are these not cannon blisters? Â To me these are blisters for the guns... The other blisters are the same than the one found on some Seafire XVII and Spirfire XVI.. And it has been said that it was for the bigger wheels the 3 spoked one .. I got to see !! and Here I'm back see post #5 and the following explanations from Miggers ! I think that it will be easier to have a Mk XVI, now I can look in my numerous ICM parts if I have the right panel for you Rob I mean the long and thin blisters, the one for the wheels, I'm sure that there are not ! Sincerely. CC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamden Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019   Don't know if you've seen this article but there are a lot of maintenance pictures shown  http://warbirdsnews.com/warbirds-news/silver-spitfire-at-vintage-wings-of-canada.html?fbclid=IwAR3IWxnPEyIdkbsmGVaCiwnF-VSqkuqeQgbQ3Y6EJB2zALuNR2    Roger 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 The rear fuselage tank can be seen here, along with some other items of interest. Wing tanks in the gun bays, and the wheel well modification, but is there a skinny blister on top of the wing tank?? Too many reflections going on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 I would say no, but as you say it’s difficult to be really sure with all the reflections.  John   1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenBills Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) But then there's this... Almost looks like a 3d rendering though. Â Â Edited August 21, 2019 by StevenBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Aargh!! Wrong again ( possibly )Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Biggles87 said: ( possibly ) Hold on there John  That does look a bit photoshop @StevenBillsdoesn't it? Certainly not shiny enough for current aircraft. Black walkways?  Later.... OK black walkways, yes 🤠Edited August 21, 2019 by rob Lyttle Addition 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenBills Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 This is from their Instagram from this morning. I can see black walkways. I apologize, I don't mean to muddy the waters here. All of this research is helping out my build tremendously! Â Â SB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malpaso Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) I wonder if they changed it quite a bit after doling out a massive load of publicity photos.  It doesn’t look like the cannon bulges are there in the photo over the Statue of Liberty.  But sort of seem to maybe possibly be showing in the Vintage Wings of Canada photos???Also the normal fuel filler cap is obvious and silver in that photo, not visible in the vertical photo, the whip aeriel seems to have changed from red to silver too!  I think you need to pick a day in the flight when it’s photographed a lot and model that condition! Edited August 21, 2019 by malpaso 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamden Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Â Looking at the pictures of G-IRTY in the link I posted above in a least two of the pictures I am certain I can see the cannon blisters. Â Â Roger 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewy Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Fair play rob you've picked a pearler of a subject here ,plenty of reference too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 Thanks for all the feedback on this, guys. Pleased to say I now have a pair of wings with the wheel well blisters, and they have the skinny gun bumps.... Made to suit the .50cal.machinegun option?? So I just got to decide between those or None..... 🤔 She'll look cool either way! What I have here is a fuel tank from the Boeing 247 that was Roscoe Turner's 1934 race plane, modified with strips of white poly to widen. Something to work with. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenBills Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Here's another shot of G-IRTY before she was polished. Maybe they removed the cannon blisters afterwards? Sorry to muddy the waters again. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom216 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Since there are pics with and without, I'd say it doesn't matter, except for personal choice. Â Although, if you make those panels interchangeable... Cut them out, have two sets of panels, one set with bulges and one set without, and set them in with magnets. Presto/change-o! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 2 hours ago, StevenBills said: another shot of G-IRTY That's nice and clear, with the narrow bumps, but that's the wrong rudder and zoom on the reg letters.... It can't be "I" after the hyphen. So, looks like we've got 2 airframes involved in the Boultbee Project!! 1 hour ago, Thom216 said: I'd say it doesn't matter, except for personal choice. I'm coming to this conclusion Thom. I like the second thought as well, but it leaves some scope for things to go wrong! I'm going to pick a good photo - maybe that workshop one, above, - and stick with it.     1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 A quick look back here shows that I've chosen the wrong frame at the seatback position - it's closed in at the top. Probably armour. Rather than wreck everything by pulling the assembly apart, I drilled and cut the plate out so it looked like the piece I should have used. part no.5. A bit more assembly, accommodation for the extra tank which required moving those two bottles (I believe they are compressed air for the pneumatic system) out of the way.  They're back on now, a bit further to the rear. The tank will get a filler tube later, up to the window, when I get an idea of the relative positions. Once this lot is installed I can put the fuselage halves together. And instead of the gun sight, I need to make a little GPS gadget for the top of the dashboard. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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