CedB Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Looking great Stuart - especially the yellow bands; good job! I'm no paint expert but iModelKit shows the following equivalents: The triangle indicates that it's glossy, I think. Any help? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 My understanding is that it is a fibreglass fairing over some piece of electronic /radar item like IFF or something, rather than paint. So it's probably a bit variable anyway, especially over time and exposure to sun and elements. Tone-wise it usually appears lighter in photos than the bare metal, but then that's going to depend on how the light is catching the metal. Certainly a light grey and if it's one of those "do not paint" panels it's going to glossy grp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Hi Stuart, I usually use Light Aircraft Gray (Humbrol 147) for this. Note that is isnt a simple straight deliniation across the fin. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 7 hours ago, CedB said: especially the yellow bands Cheers. I hated fitting those decals, think I'll go back to painting the banding for future Korean theatre Sabres. Thanks for the equivalents, looks like I have a few to choose from. 7 hours ago, rob Lyttle said: fibreglass fairing You may very well be right. I have seen lots of pics and they show all variations, come even painted. All important to check your reference. 4 minutes ago, RidgeRunner said: Humbrol 147 Cheers Martin, I think I found a pot of this last night. Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Those decals seem to have gone on well. Nice one. She's starting to look the part now! Terry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Courageous said: All important to check your reference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted December 14, 2019 Author Share Posted December 14, 2019 Well, the decal fixer arrived and it was time to print some decals. Initial print of the fin flash had a pink tinge around the block colours and having never done this before, was a bit worrying. After a few chats with Martin ( @RidgeRunner) and my own 'faffing' about, I eventually found A set of properties that printed decent decals. The top decal sheet is printed on clear, the bottom is on white. They have had two coats of fixer and I will now leave them until this evening before I carry out the next experiment, namely the water/ run test. Catch you later. Stuart 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Those self-printed decals look very neat, Stuart! Looking forward to the next phases Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted December 14, 2019 Author Share Posted December 14, 2019 Water experiment on the clear decal paper worked well, so... ...suitably impressed. So good, so far. Next, the buzz codes... ...et voila! The eagle-eyed among may have noticed something else in the above image, yes, a white band has been painted on the tail. Unfortunately the second experiment on the white decal was a fail... ...but I wasn't surprised. Having the cut the decal right up to the solid colour, their was no fixer along the cut edge which allowed water to get in to the ink. So a white band was painted on the tail and I will print off a fin flash on clear decal to get round the problem. If others know how you get round this problem in the future, please tell. Stuart 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Decals look good, Stuart Can't help on your issue, sorry Ciao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Courageous said: a white band was painted on the tail and I will print off a fin flash on clear decal to get round the problem. I think you're on the right track. I don't know the solution for this but I wonder if there's any mileage in cutting the the decal first and then sealing, so the edges get a dose too? That might interfere with the transfer separating from the backing. If you are in the mood for experiments it could be worth a try. But first up I think this next should sort it. My experience was with laser printing on clear, done in a copy shop, and I was pleased to find that they are waterproof straight off the sheet, but that's a different ballgame The fighting cocks look great! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Courageous said: If others know how you get round this problem in the future, please tell. A similar issue discussed in this thread, it seems that you'd need to seal the edges after cutting & make sure to seal them well or go the way you have & use clear decal paper with a wider margin on a white back ground. Btw, how did you print the white background to the rooster, as I read it, that was printed on clear paper? Steve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) Looking good! 👍 Edited December 15, 2019 by Sabrejet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 Cheers guys. 8 hours ago, stevehnz said: Btw, how did you print the white background to the rooster, as I read it, that was printed on clear paper? Basically, I very carefully cut out a masking template, using a paper version of the the rooster as a master, positioned it on the Sabre and whacked some Vallejo white on. The white background was a little rough around the edges and was I ready to touch as necessary but the black border hid that when I put the decal on. I have since printed tail bands on clear decal, fixed and now drying for later. Stuart 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Thanks Stuart, it looks good, you must have a very steady hand. Steve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 I little further... Tail decals now on making that stage complete. Wheels, undercarriage and doors on. Tanks and pylons on. Bombs and pylons on. With the underside now complete, it's time for festive Friday beer...or two. Stuart 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Well deserved, I must say! Excellent job, Stuart Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Courageous said: it's time for festive Friday beer...or two. Well earned I'd say. Enjoy. Steve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Decor is working very well! It's great when you learn stuff on the way, isn't it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 4 hours ago, Courageous said: …time for festive Friday beer...or two. Well deserved Stuart, she's looking very smart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Looking good, Stuart! Always nice to see a fighter-bomber version! 👍 Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 On 12/20/2019 at 7:54 PM, giemme said: Well deserved, I must say! Excellent job, On 12/20/2019 at 8:35 PM, stevehnz said: Well earned I'd say. Enjoy On 12/20/2019 at 9:22 PM, rob Lyttle said: Decor is working very well! On 12/21/2019 at 12:17 AM, 72modeler said: Looking good, Stuart! Always nice to see a fighter-bomber version! Cheers guys. Gearing up for Crimbo is getting in the way of completing this. Short of a major catastrophe, this 'bird' will be finished tomorrow. Since the last update, other bits have been added; exhaust in, fuel dump added, tail planes added, seat fitted. Just got to finish off the canopy internals, fit the canopy and fit/ paint pitot. Stuart 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 All done. Last completed built of 2019. ...more pics in RFI. Stuart 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Excellent job, very neat metal finish! Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 58 minutes ago, giemme said: Excellent job, very neat metal finish! Thanks Giorgio. It's not as 'natural' as I would have liked but it conforms with the rest of my NMF builds. Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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