Rod The Fixer Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 (edited) Hi mates, I would like to participate to my first GB making an Indian Air Force (Bharatiya Vayu Sena) Sukhoi Su-7BMK from the No.32 "Killers" Squadron in 1982. This particular plane was named "Tommy" and wears red/white quick identification tail stripes for war game. (cit. Yefim Gordon, Aerofax Su-7 Pag. 141) If interested you can found a complete documentation about Su-7 operational use in Indian air force here: Bharat-rakshak.com A quick look inside the box: This kit is an Eduard reboxing (2010) of an old Kopro Kit, the model is molded in light gray styrene and presented on four parts trees, plus an addition tree of clear parts. In addiction we have two photo-etched parts including one featuring their color printing, one set of yellow tape masks, one set of resin parts, and a nice set of marking options. Edited August 17, 2019 by Rod The Fixer 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 This really is an excellent choice. We couldn't really have an Asia GB and not have something representing India could we? And the fact that it's an Su-7 just makes it even better as this is one of my favourite Cold War aircraft, a real brute that could withstand a great deal of punishment. I have the original Kopro kit which also come with Indian markings (not that I would like to try and use them) and the Eduard boxing you have has all the goodies that you need to bring this kit up to modern standards. I am really looking forward to seeing this one come together and I'm sure there will be plenty of others who will be watching too. Welcome to the GB. Craig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod The Fixer Posted August 15, 2019 Author Share Posted August 15, 2019 First steps in cockpit assembling ... Before ... After ... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) Nice start! Try to also get the Master pitot and cannons! http://master-model.pl/images/products/thumbs/AM-48-119_01-318x240.jpg Edited August 16, 2019 by exdraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 A very good start, and as @exdraken says the master pitots would be a very welcome added bonus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod The Fixer Posted August 16, 2019 Author Share Posted August 16, 2019 14 hours ago, exdraken said: Nice start! Try to also get the Master pitot and cannons! http://master-model.pl/images/products/thumbs/AM-48-119_01-318x240.jpg Thanks for the advice ... bought 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 That really is a very nice start on the cockpit, the Eduard etch set certainly seems to have great details. Good choice buying the pitot and cannon set, they are much better than the original kit parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod The Fixer Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 I had to correct some imperfections in the attaches of the tailplanes to the fuselage, sanding the ledges: at the same time I completed the cockpit first stage ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod The Fixer Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 This is the situation after the assembling the fuselage and the wings and after a coat of primer to check imperfections : I need your opinion about the the correct assembly of the jet exhaust , Thanks in advance 😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 The cockpit looks great and sits very nicely in the fuselage. I see what you mean about the tail planes and am sure your sanding will have sorted it out. You really have got the aircraft together very quickly and she looks great. I am not sure what you mean about the exhaust, can you explain a bit more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Nice choice for this build, I've only just found the thread. I've built a couple of these from their initial release from OZE in a previous GB. The Master Model Brass bits are a must, the kit ones, even though they're from Eduard, are pretty poor! The elevators are an issue as you have found, and do take a bit of work to correct. In my build I show how I corrected them. Plus if you have the chance and time (it may be a bit late now by the looks of it), those wing fences really need to be replaced, they are way too think. Some thin brass sheet or plastic will make a huge improvement. The undercarriage is poorly done as well and it may give you some issues, best is to drill out all the mounting points and put plastic pins in them. It'll make setting up the correct stance so much easier later on. There is some detail missing from the exhaust as well. But you've made a great start, I really enjoyed building this model, lots of fun. I'm currently on my 4th Fitter, the Su-7's big brother, the Su-22M4, plus i still have one to go in the stash, another Su-17/22. These models maybe getting a bit old but they are so much fun to build. Keep up the great work!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod The Fixer Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 4 hours ago, trickyrich said: Nice choice for this build, I've only just found the thread. I've built a couple of these from their initial release from OZE in a previous GB. The Master Model Brass bits are a must, the kit ones, even though they're from Eduard, are pretty poor! The elevators are an issue as you have found, and do take a bit of work to correct. In my build I show how I corrected them. Plus if you have the chance and time (it may be a bit late now by the looks of it), those wing fences really need to be replaced, they are way too think. Some thin brass sheet or plastic will make a huge improvement. The undercarriage is poorly done as well and it may give you some issues, best is to drill out all the mounting points and put plastic pins in them. It'll make setting up the correct stance so much easier later on. There is some detail missing from the exhaust as well. But you've made a great start, I really enjoyed building this model, lots of fun. I'm currently on my 4th Fitter, the Su-7's big brother, the Su-22M4, plus i still have one to go in the stash, another Su-17/22. These models maybe getting a bit old but they are so much fun to build. Keep up the great work!!! thanks for your advice Rich I had my trouble to assemble the Kitty Hawk Su-35s and I was hoping to work less to assemble this kit ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod The Fixer Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 21 hours ago, modelling minion said: The cockpit looks great and sits very nicely in the fuselage. I see what you mean about the tail planes and am sure your sanding will have sorted it out. You really have got the aircraft together very quickly and she looks great. I am not sure what you mean about the exhaust, can you explain a bit more? The exhaust looks very poor and I would like some tips to improve it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 21 minutes ago, Rod The Fixer said: The exhaust looks very poor and I would like some tips to improve it https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/QMTR48017 which look like it can be retrofitted... or considerably more expensive... https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/RSU48-0018 HTH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod The Fixer Posted September 1, 2019 Author Share Posted September 1, 2019 A little detailing work on the wheel wells: The plane after filling some inaccuracies: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Very nice work on the wheel wells they look fantastic. As does your Su-7, this really is excellent work you are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 nice work on the wheel wells as they quite bare on the models. I't a bit late now to correct but the fuselage side of the wheels isn't a square flat unit, it's actually a continuation of the fuselage curve with rounded section in it for the wheel. Actually it is quite a bit of work to correct for something 99% of people won't notice......I include myself in that 1% of odd people! I do like this build though, it reminds me of how much fun I had building mine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 16 hours ago, trickyrich said: ..I include myself in that 1% of odd people! I think we would all include you in that section. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod The Fixer Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share Posted September 7, 2019 I tried to correct the fuselage ... what do you think ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 that shape is much better, though the floor of the wheel wells is flat and without the lip to the fuselage. But I have noticed something really odd and I had to go off and check my references. I had completely forgotten (and didn't notice in the sprue shot), the there are 2 sets of lower wings for the 2 versions. The BKL's had the skids fitted to the outside of the main gear and so needed bulged doors to fit them and fairings on wings and fuselage, the BMK's didn't have the skids so the doors were smooth with the wing/fuselage so no fairings were needed on the wings or fuselage. You have the correct lower wing parts for a BMK but you also need to completely remove that faired section on the fuselage. Page 4 in the instructions shows it, but it is poorly shown and very easy to forget. I should have spotted this in the pervious photos you posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Looks like there is a lot more to making a BMK from this kit than it first appears, I'm sure that any corrections are well within your abilities based on what you have done so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod The Fixer Posted September 8, 2019 Author Share Posted September 8, 2019 😫... you're right .. this should be the right shape that's gonna be tough ... 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 arr that was the photo I had been looking for. It shouldn't be too hard to correct as you had the rest of the fuselage as a guide. The only thing I'm not sure is how thick the plastic is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod The Fixer Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 I tried to correct lower wing parts: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Well done, they look much closer to the ones in the pics above than they did originally from the kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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