John Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 I was browsing on the Bay of E and I came across the Chematic F-82 kit: https://www.scalemates.com/kits/chematic-72407-f-82-twin-mustang--167115 The price was very reasonable so I got it, not necessarily to add to this GB but as much for curiosity as anything else. It arrived today: The problem is, despite what Scalemates say, I'm not convinced this kit has its origins in the FROG mould. It looks suspiciously like the Monogram kit to me but I'm not an expect in either so I'll happily bow to the expertise here. This is what it looks like: Looks like a nice enough kit on the sprue. Techmod decals too. Happy to hear thoughts. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterB Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 John, I think you are right - there are parts such as the lower canopy frame and guns which I am pretty sure were not on my Frogspawn kit, which as far as I remember had one piece canopies. Looks like a nice kit though. Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplasticsurgeon Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Looks VERY similar to this Monogram build that I did in 2016. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, John said: I'm not convinced this kit has its origins in the FROG mould. It looks suspiciously like the Monogram kit to me but I'm not an expect in either so I'll happily bow to the expertise here. This is what it looks like: Here is a screen shot of the Monogram moulds from a modeling madness review/build. https://modelingmadness.com/scott/korean/preview/monogram/5257.htm Similar but not sure, looks like the same parts in the kit. However the parts trees have been rearranged some on the trees. Of note are the wing and fuselage parts. Dennis Edited August 9, 2019 by Corsairfoxfouruncle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted August 9, 2019 Author Share Posted August 9, 2019 A curiosity then, but probably not a FROG one. It looks like an original mould "inspired" by the Monogram kit. Wasn't there something a few years back about Eastern European kits, a Hunter and a Javelin, that were assumed to be from FROG moulds but turned out to be originals? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Electric Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Its not the FROG one... I've just dug mine out. Similar, and I think the Chematic one is probably based on it, but nowhere near as much detailing on the FROG mouldings Yes, there was, but again, I think that was a case of reworked FROG moulds, or at least kits that were heavily based on them Best as ever Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterB Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 (edited) Hi John. My Chematic Javelin was assumed by many to be a modified Frog kit but it is completely different - recessed panel lines, nose cone part of fuselage not separate, different canopy, fuselage 1cm longer so FAW7 can be made OOB, different joining method for wings & vertical tail etc etc.. Scalemates confirm it is actually a new mould by Plastyk, whoever they were, Chematic certainly did a good few Frog kits, but also threw in some from other sources - I seem to recall a Hunter being ,mentioned somewhere as well, again Plastyk I think. They may well be loosely based on the Frog moulds but very heavily modified in the case of the Jav - never seen the Hunter. Pete Edited August 10, 2019 by PeterB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted August 10, 2019 Author Share Posted August 10, 2019 Interesting stuff. Weren't questions raised about their F-4K as well? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelldoc Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 It's an origin FROG, see the history: https://www.scalemates.com/kits/chematic-72407-f-82-twin-mustang--167115 and here is my once build: https://www.flickr.com/photos/21603181@N08/20021918379/in/photolist-wvgyMi I had used new decals by Revell, because, I bought it in the late 80's in the former Soviet Union, in Baku where it was produced. modelldoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 So it definitely is ex-Frog, and it equally definitely isn't. As suggested for other types, could it be that the older releases were from Frog tooling but Chematic then obtained a different tooling for later/current issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMA131Marine Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 The link below has a comparison of the FROG/Novo kit and the Monogram F-82. The kit pictured above certainly looks to have its origins in the Monogram kit and not the FROG version. https://webkits.hoop.la/topic/twin-mustang-f-82 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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