Homebee Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) And Bronco Models is the most original 2019 kit prize winner with... No, it's not a joke. Bronco Models is to release a new tool 1/48th North American P-51D-25-NA Mustang " Red 3" PLA Air Force - ref. FB4010 Bronco and Mustang Sources: http://www.moxingfans.com/new/news/2019/0809/6153_2.html http://www.moxingfans.com/uploads/allimg/190809/1_190809163831_9.jpg V.P. Edited November 10, 2020 by Homebee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Maas Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Well, at least they're starting with a late variant so they can grab some sales before Eduard gets to a -25 But really, who is going to buy this over the other much more widely available kits. I understand why the big guys all have a P-51D, they're a guaranteed money maker. But the reality is that in a hobby shop they're already going to be stocking Tamiya, Airfix, Eduard, Hobby Boss, whatever Hasegawa special editions are currently out and possibly the Meng kit before they get to the point that they even look at ordering the Bronco. When you're a small maker like Bronco, you look for the gaps in others lineups. Eduard did this very well with their P-39's and Fw190's in particular, and rode that to becoming one of the major brands. Now if they'd done a B model, they'd be in much better shape, as right now there's a distinct lack of modern B's aside from the Tamiya and its ICM clone and both of those are ripe for supplanting by a new one with a correct cockpit and gear bays. Eduard will have one soon enough, but there's the opportunity for somebody to get there first and scoop up some sales. Likewise a family of Allison engined Mustangs, as only the AM kit is any good and it's only occasionally available via Italieri or Academy and it also is ripe for a modern tooled replacement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCZ Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Allison engine Mustang/Apache was boring subject. It' s Attacker/Recon, not Fighter, with limited camos and short operational history.... Now, after release of Eduard state of art, definitive kit is announcement of Bronco a bad joke. I except highest price as Eduard offer (Bronco is expensive) and one version in box. OVERTREES by Eduard was for 10£, weekend furure for 15£. BRONCO was probably the same case as Meng - brutally overpriced. (Their Early P-40 was very expensive kit...) Maybe Bronco make engine and guns... But Ed prepare photo reccon version. (I accepted around 20-30£ for "plastic only" WW II single engine fighter kit. (Exception are new tool kits from Tamiya, because Tamiya and Eduard make state of arts kit of classic WW-2 types. N.T. Tamiya have P.E. parts too - and twenty five years kabuki masks - but not pre-cut - i don' t understand why...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Maas Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, AlCZ said: Allison engine Mustang/Apache was boring subject. It' s Attacker/Recon, not Fighter, with limited camos and short operational history.... Now, after release of Eduard state of art, definitive kit is announcement of Bronco a bad joke. I except highest price as Eduard offer (Bronco is expensive) and one version in box. OVERTREES by Eduard was for 10£, weekend furure for 15£. BRONCO was probably the same case as Meng - brutally overpriced. (Their Early P-40 was very expensive kit...) Short operational history? Boring Subject? Allison Mustangs were operational from 1942 through to the end of the war, although in limited numbers after mid-1944 (due to attrition). The very last operational RAF Mustang was an Allison Mustang (in 1947). They had far more extensive service during WW2 than the D model did. First Mustang kill was an RCAF Mustang 1 over Dieppe. They saw a lot of combat in 3 theaters (Europe, Med and CBI). Several unique schemes as these were the only Mustangs to wear DG/DE over Sky or the classic silver pre-war USAAC markings (the XP-51's wore these and were Mk1's), plus unique schemes like the 1st Air Commando's P-51's with the white aft fuselage stripes. Where else do you get an OD/NG Mustang with Yellow-rimmed round star markings and an honest to goodness US flag on the tail (154 FS in 1943 on P-51's) Edited August 9, 2019 by Adam Maas 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, AlCZ said: Allison engine Mustang/Apache was boring subject. It' s Attacker/Recon, not Fighter, with limited camos and short operational history.... The RAF used the Allison Mustang continuously on operations from January 1942 right through to the end of the war. A longer operational service life than the Typhoon or the Tempest V, or the Me 262, or lots of other much-modelled types Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocoolname Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 I think this announcement calls for a 'Brenda from Bristol'... "Whaaat? Not another one???" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCZ Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Ok, Mea Culpa... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenko Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, Nocoolname said: I think this announcement calls for a 'Brenda from Bristol'... "Whaaat? Not another one???" For those not in the UK. Brenda is a lady member of the pubic commenting on television that the UK was having another general election just after the previous one. … This was some time ago.... she was priceless. Dick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocoolname Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 It feels like AMK's* then GWH's** announcement of more 1/48 F-14's just after Tamiya's and the feeling that if everyone else was making an F-14 then maybe so should I? Perhaps I need to throw my hat into the P-51D ring too? *Though we know how that's gone... **Even less about this one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenko Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 On the bright side …. it keeps the reviewers in work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted November 25, 2019 Author Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) Box art, 3D renders, schemes & decals - ref. FB4010 - North American P-51D/K Mustang "PLA 1949 parade"; Release expected in November 2019 in China. Sources: https://www.themodellingnews.com/2019/11/just-in-case-you-needed-new-version.html http://www.hyperscale.com/2019/reviews/kits/broncofb4010preview_1.htm V.P. Edited November 27, 2019 by Homebee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCZ Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Bronco is relative expensive company - and i bet their Mustang isn´t better (and cheaper) as Eduard gem... And boooring decals for Chinese only ?! Great ! But Mustang is milking cow. You can may it release many time and time again…. In AFV have Bronco great subject and here…. Mustang. Baaah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Hmmm I wonder if these share a lineage with the Meng P-51’s ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boman Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Looks like the MENG P-51D?? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masinissa Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 15 hours ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: Hmmm I wonder if these share a lineage with the Meng P-51’s ? There is absolutely no shared lineage with the Meng kit. The Meng kit has better shapes, and the Meng P-51D is a snap tight kit with unique modular construction. The Bronco kit's nose fails to capture the shape of the nose, since under the hood was a V-12 Rolls Royce Packard engine with broad rocker arms. This kit shares the same shape issues with the Tamiya P-51D and Accurate Miniatures P-51B/C. The nose is too narrow. There's probably a few more issues as well. Unfortunately I'll never buy the kit to examine it closely. Eduard is sucking up all my P-51D dollars. As has been pointed out, this kit, like the Meng kit, will be expensive outside of China. The competition is rough and the Eduard kit is state of the art straight out of the box. Eduard's Overtrees make their kit a real bargain. For the price of two Meng kits ($45) I can add just $8 and buy an Eduard Royal Class P-51D Dual Combo kit this Black Friday with 14 decal options, masks, photoetch, tires, etc. . . . The market for this kit is obvious. Mainland China. You get a box with markings that commemorate a significant event in the founding of modern China. Meng also did a special boxing with the PLA AF like this as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMA131Marine Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Based on the images provided, I agre with those who say this new kit does not capture the shape of the upper cowl from the windshield to the spinner correctly. It looks like they gave it a semi-circular cross-section all the way back from the spinner, whereas the real item is much more complex to accommodate the Merlin engine underneath. It is a P-51 kit though so I suppose it will sell. You would have thought Bronco would have been more careful after the fiasco with the shallow cockpit in their early P-40 series kits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Nobody has mentioned the lack of drooped flaps (or did I miss that!) aside from the other stuff mentioned above. Now if they'd just produced the decal sheet it would be intersting (for some) Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caughtinthemiddle Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 19 minutes ago, RidgeRunner said: Nobody has mentioned the lack of drooped flaps (or did I miss that!) aside from the other stuff mentioned above. Now if they'd just produced the decal sheet it would be intersting (for some) Martin You really underestimate the potential absorptivity of the Chinese market, for which this kit is obviously intended. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Agreed, they won't care if Europeans and American don't buy many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted December 28, 2019 Author Share Posted December 28, 2019 Sprues pics: http://www.moxingfans.com/test/BRONCO/2019/1228/7256.html V.P. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boman Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Looks like a cross-over between Airfix and Meng P-51D, but looks promissing. Will likely try one just to see how it is 😋👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMA131Marine Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Definitely giving this one a miss; it’s not even as good as the 25-odd year old Hasegawa and Tamiya kits in 1/48. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Interesting and different markings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areva Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 What is the purpose of the fuselage cutout behind the cockpit? Was the antenna mount different? areva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Bottom left piece on each sub-sprue. 21 hours ago, Homebee said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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