hendie Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, CedB said: I'm sure you can see all the 'spare plastic' in that shot. Very thoughtful of Fly to include all that spare plastic in case you need it. Corrected your statement... 5 minutes ago, CedB said: Turret clear parts have been assembled: Nice dextering Ced. Are you enjoying the kit yet? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 You’re heroic efforts will pay off in the long run. The end result will be all the sweeter. This is real modelling with kits that fight back. I’m having an argument with the Kitty Hawk Jaguar at the moment and I keep getting visions of lump hammers and lots of screaming. Trevor 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Careful Ced, you may turn into a "proper" modeller with all this altering bits and so on! Nice work on getting the turret mount to fit! Ian 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Some propre surgery going on there, Ced! Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookytooth Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 hour ago, limeypilot said: Careful Ced, you may turn into a "proper" modeller with all this altering bits and so on! Nice work on getting the turret mount to fit! Ian "Proper Modelling" What do you think this is "Hyperscale" LOL Good work on this one Ced. Patience of Jobe. Simon. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moggy Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 On 08/08/2019 at 19:16, dogsbody said: Another FN.17 image: Chris Pure steampunk. Cheers, Moggy 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 12 hours ago, Moggy said: Pure steampunk. It has an air of the guillotine about it too. Trevor 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Ah yes, self contained basket Does dunnit! (Wanders off considering possibilities...) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 18 hours ago, hendie said: Very thoughtful of Fly to include all that spare plastic in case you need it. Corrected your statement... Nice dextering Ced. Are you enjoying the kit yet? Thanks hendie Most of the spare plastic is ending up in the bin… but I am starting to enjoy the kit. Probably won't last? 18 hours ago, Max Headroom said: You’re heroic efforts will pay off in the long run. The end result will be all the sweeter. This is real modelling with kits that fight back. I’m having an argument with the Kitty Hawk Jaguar at the moment and I keep getting visions of lump hammers and lots of screaming. Trevor Thanks Trevor - we will overcome! 18 hours ago, limeypilot said: Careful Ced, you may turn into a "proper" modeller with all this altering bits and so on! Nice work on getting the turret mount to fit! Ian Awww thanks Ian - I am trying! 17 hours ago, giemme said: Some propre surgery going on there, Ced! Ciao Thanks Giorgio 16 hours ago, Spookytooth said: "Proper Modelling" What do you think this is "Hyperscale" LOL Good work on this one Ced. Patience of Jobe. Simon. Thanks Simon 16 hours ago, Moggy said: Pure steampunk. Cheers, Moggy 4 hours ago, Max Headroom said: It has an air of the guillotine about it too. Trevor 3 hours ago, perdu said: Ah yes, self contained basket Does dunnit! (Wanders off considering possibilities...) Thanks Moggy, Trevor and Bill - certainly is a weird idea and one that thankfully 'developed', although I'm sure ventral turrets weren't popular with the gunners I've failed to find the mojo for a suitably sized crew so I've decided this will be crewless. I know, but sometimes needs must. Last view of the internals: Then it was out with the Touch-N-Flow and tape: With some careful encouragement the seam can be almost eliminated: Almost: After some careful removal of excess plastic the canopy is a good fit too: Hang on, what's that hole behind the canopy? RATS, forgot the windows! I blame my utter confusion over this: ALL of the little windows are optional and there are no slots for them, just scribing in the plastic. In the absence of reference shots in the instructions I've done none of them - I may change my mind once I've chosen a subject IF I can find some photos. While that was drying I went on to the empennage. Nasty ejector marks, easily removed with the #9 blade: The #9 is perfect for this sort of job - it just takes off the excess without much damage on the rest of the part. But wait, what's this? Could this be a locating pin? Nah, unlikely, it's just excess plastic. With that cleaned off the tailplanes were glued and the rudders cleaned up: Then I wondered how the wheel bay doors would close up and saw this: It looks like the resin bays replace part of the nacelle too so I won't be able to avoid using them. Oh dear. They're going to take some cutting off those blocks. Masks out boys! 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) That central seam looks much better than I thought it would, Ced - given the kind of kit, I mean. KUDOS Ciao Edited August 14, 2019 by giemme 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Wot he said, above. Really motoring along now Ced, soon be finished. John 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbudde Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 26 minutes ago, CedB said: RATS, forgot the windows! From what I understand the instruction sheet, they are no little round windows. So, you have not forgot them. You should use clear fix for them. So no need to get frantic. Cheers 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Lordy. I’ve looked at those instructions for some time, & I don’t think I am any wiser. But you you are making a characteristically good job of beating this kit into submission. Highly entertaining! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 Thanks Giorgio and John - just some patience and the Touch-N-Flow; I find it much easier to use for this than the TET bottle and brush 2 hours ago, bbudde said: From what I understand the instruction sheet, they are no little round windows. So, you have not forgot them. You should use clear fix for them. So no need to get frantic. Cheers Ah, my fault Ben, I didn't photograph the part of the sheet that shows them. But I owe you my thanks - my first thought was to check the part trees and they're there: Clear as mud. But look, they're tapered. Why not try sticking 'em in from the outside? Result! That pen thing is a vacuum pick up tool. It sucks, in the slang meaning of the term. Useless. 1 hour ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said: Lordy. I’ve looked at those instructions for some time, & I don’t think I am any wiser. But you you are making a characteristically good job of beating this kit into submission. Highly entertaining! Thanks Crisp - we aim to please! Glad you're confused about the windows too. Onwards! Cut 5mm off the nacelles. Oooh look, there are some lines on the kit. Better make sure they're not 'other' panel lines: 5mm, great - cut here. The lines were just deep enough to guide the JLC so I 'scribed' gently with the saw until I got a deep enough guide and then went for it: Then, the resin. Gulp. I used the 'Navy Bird' method of cutting guide slots around the part first using a contour saw and then went at it with the Dexter: Just the one for now - there's only so much time I can spend doing Darth Vader impressions: Need to get my breath back. Why do these 3M masks 'wheeze' at the end of your breath? Some kind of marketing thing to make you think you'd wheeze more without the mask? Success! I wondered why dust was appearing inside the well - there are two holes in the bottom for the u/c legs: Quick clean up with the USB vacuum - yikes! There is a spare filter but it's not as fine as you can see. I'll have to wash the other. Does it fit the plastic? See next post! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 Well this is definitely excess plastic: Time to 'do a Baron' and get out the Jeweller's saw: Now, do I need a 1/0, a 4/0 or what? No idea. Went for the middle ground before but I thought I'd investigate for the hive, or at least others who don't know. Here are the 1/0 and 4/0 blades side-by-side: So it looks like the number is the 'grade' of the blade? The 1/0 is coarser? I dropped the plastic on the floor: Looks like time to clean the floor - Mrs B is banned from cleaning the man cave to avoid the tidy hidey! I blame Molly. I HOPE it's not my hair, I don't have much left! Saw worked well: Especially around the corners. Nice tool. Now then, I've cut one bay from the resin, but which one? The instructions show a blob on U10 and not on the other: Hmmm Oh wait, there's a tiny '1' just visible on one and nothing on the other. And there's a '1' and '2' on the plastic 'rib' parts that go in the bays: I'm going to assume this is so that the designers knew which part was which, even if they don't make it clear in the instructions. At least the plastic fits really well: Well, really well for a short-run. Now I just need to work out how the resin fits in the nacelle. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Don’t wish to be rude ( no, really ) but the mask makes you look like one of those frogs ( I think ) that puffs out it’s brightly coloured cheeks. Can’t you get filters in other colours? john 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Ced, you are taking this model to another level, great going! I will, anyway, pretend that I haven't seen that pic of yours with The Mask .... Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 Thanks John and Giorgio The mask is a bit scary eh? I think the colours are different for different filters? You don't think pink suits me? Still trying to decide where the resin fits in the wheel bay. Better dry fit the rest of the wings. This will need attention: That lump on the end should be a hole - no really - there's a resin blob to go in there. On first assembly I thought the spar was too big: The nacelles don't really fit either: Now, don't forget this is a Fly short-run. Perhaps there's method in their madness and the spar is there to shape the wing? It does bend to shape: Perhaps it's like that on purpose? How does it fit the wing root? Cunning. So all I need to do now is get the nacelles and resin bay sorted. The instructions say to chop 5mm off the top too. Panel lines on the side but not on the top, so Dymo tape was used to 'join the lines: With some fettling the bits fit - ish: But it still doesn't help position the resin. Here? Maybe I should assemble the nacelles and see what happens: Tomorrow… 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbudde Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Hello Ced, Nice chiseling. Are there some carving tools and some extra wood in this kit too? Would be a nice effort by Fly. Cheers 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookytooth Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) You are doing marvelous job Ced. BTW does bashing plastic make you go blind? Simon. Edited August 14, 2019 by Spookytooth 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted August 15, 2019 Author Share Posted August 15, 2019 11 hours ago, bbudde said: Hello Ced, Nice chiseling. Are there some carving tools and some extra wood in this kit too? Would be a nice effort by Fly. Cheers Thanks Ben Nope, no tools provided, sadly! 11 hours ago, Spookytooth said: You are doing marvelous job Ced. BTW does bashing plastic make you go blind? Simon. Thanks Simon What's the difference between a Fly kit and an onion? Nobody cries when you chop up a Fly kit. Good news - the nacelles and bay doors almost fit without the resin: The gap at the back is where the resin would have been so that answers that question for people building wheels down - the back of the resin goes outside the nacelle. I'll have a look at the wheels and decide how to mount those next before I commit to more glue. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted August 15, 2019 Author Share Posted August 15, 2019 With Plasticard inserted at the back everything more or less fits: Something has to be glued so I decided to do the wings. The end bit looks as though it fits until you turn it over: More excess plastic, of course: With that trimmed and sanded the fit is much better so it's all been glued and the wheels assembled: I see some Milliput in my future. Or maybe Humbrol filler if it's not too bad? We shall see… 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamden Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Making great strides with this one now Ced Nice workmanship as always! Roger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Great job with the wings, Ced Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 They're really testing you with all this excess plastic, aren't they! Nice job picking your way through the minefield! Ian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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