brewerjerry Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Hi Not wanting to poach the spitfire op rutter thread anymore think i have it poached enough Just wondering which would be the best available hurricane suitable for those that are in the film in the op rutter spitfire thread with the markings used just forward planning for my winter purhases/projects cheers jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 6 hours ago, brewerjerry said: Just wondering which would be the best available hurricane suitable for those that are in the film in the op rutter spitfire thread with the markings used scale? IIRC 72nd is not you think Jerry, EDIT - missed the 72nd/48th tag Re 72nd, it will depend on what level of fault you can put up with, what you want to spend and/or what you modelling skills are like..... The hase kit mentioned by Graham below is maybe the best OOB option, it has the right wing, but will need a new spinner (this can be got as one of the multiple option in the ARMA kit) If you are not a total detail nut, the ARMA Mk.I could be done as a IIB, it would be too short and have the wrong carb intake and radiator, but it would still look better than a Revell IIB, which is a harder boxing to get. Or, get an AZ IIc and rescribe the wings. Or wait, as hopefully ARMA will do a Mk.II That said, the only reasonably accurate IIB is the 1/48th Hasegawa kit. It has it's faults, depends on your AMS... Hmm, quick search, seems Fly do a "IIB" in 1/32 https://www.scalemodellingnow.com/hnaircraftkits-fly-models-hawker-hurricane-mk2b the reason for the "IIB" is they have used their IIC kit fuselage withe the Mk.I wings, so it's actually a IIA, and need the out gun bays adding, which given the neatly done rivet detail, might be a pain.... I don't know of the XP codes being available, HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 For 1/72 Hasegawa provide the best, if somewhat imperfect, Mk.IIB. It does however lack bombs and fairings. These can be obtained from a Revell Hurricane Mk.IIB, which is otherwise somewhat lacking in accuracy (not that the bombs are perfect... Nobody does glare shields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 23 minutes ago, Graham Boak said: Nobody does glare shields. Owl do them as photo etch 48 https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/OWLE4807 72 https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/OWLE7207 but seems a lot for some small bit of etch.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 That's what plasticard is for. I did mean that no manufacturer included glare shields in their Hurricane kits, which may also be untrue now, but certainly not any 1/72 Mk.IIB kits, nor to quite the large size of these ones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Troy Smith said: It has it's faults, depends on your AMS... No, it has ITS faults! Sorry, couldn't resist. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewerjerry Posted August 5, 2019 Author Share Posted August 5, 2019 Hi All Thanks for the info cheers Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 8 hours ago, Graham Boak said: That's what plasticard is for. I did mean that no manufacturer included glare shields in their Hurricane kits, which may also be untrue now, but certainly not any 1/72 Mk.IIB kits, nor to quite the large size of these ones. The old 1/24 Airfix has them, presumably to help distract attention away from the over-inflated snout. At least, they were depicted on the box art, and it's dinner time so I'm not going into the loft to check until later... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 29 minutes ago, Work In Progress said: The old 1/24 Airfix has them, presumably to help distract attention away from the over-inflated snout. At least, they were depicted on the box art, and it's dinner time so I'm not going into the loft to check until later... it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewerjerry Posted August 5, 2019 Author Share Posted August 5, 2019 Hi Now that is a thought a 1:24 op rutter hurricane cheers jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, brewerjerry said: Hi Now that is a thought a 1:24 op rutter hurricane cheers jerry be hard work unless you find a IIC in those markings, which Trumpeter do. the old Airfix kit is a Mk.I, and has some serious issues shape wise, as @Work In Progress mentions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 (edited) The Trumpeter kit is really good though and you will occasionally find a cheap one for sale. However the 1/32 Fly kit is the best Hurricane in any scale, and they do make a nice 12 gun IIb Edited August 5, 2019 by Work In Progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 13 hours ago, Troy Smith said: Hmm, quick search, seems Fly do a "IIB" in 1/32 https://www.scalemodellingnow.com/hnaircraftkits-fly-models-hawker-hurricane-mk2b the reason for the "IIB" is they have used their IIC kit fuselage withe the Mk.I wings, so it's actually a IIA, and need the out gun bays adding, which given the neatly done rivet detail, might be a pain.... 33 minutes ago, Work In Progress said: However the 1/32 Fly kit is the best Hurricane in any scale, and they do make a nice 12 gun IIb From what I have seen, it looks great. I don't have one, and unless I find it really cheap, probably won't.... more to the fact that I have just way too many kits. But if anyone wants to donate one to me for research purposes 42 minutes ago, Work In Progress said: The Trumpeter kit is really good though and you will occasionally find a cheap one for sale. On 12/07/2019 at 23:23, Troy Smith said: I also checked my IIc, and, the devil in in the detail, Trumpy have used the same radiator parts in both the Mk.i and Mk.II kits, except the Mk.II radiator is deeper, they have also used the Mk.II cores, with the circular centre, for their Mk.I... so the rad is not right for either version. I suspect this means the standard carb intake will also be wrong, I'm guessing they used the Mk.I here's a Mk.II rad the other kit glitches. the decals are inaccurate. the spinner shape is not pointy enough. the rubber tyres have block tread, wartime are smooth. and it is covered in holes.... Hurricanes eitehr have flush rivets (leading edge of wing) or dome head. Not holes. though the actual airframe shapes are very impressive. As I have said before, why Trumpy have not scaled this down to 48th and 72nd is beyond me... Here's a AM suggestion, a set of positive rivet decals for the Trumpeter kit, along with a new rad, spinner and correct tyres, then it really would be a stunning an accurate model.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Troy Smith said: it's actually a IIA, and need the out gun bays adding, which given the neatly done rivet detail, might be a pain.... While the photo of the relevant wing sprue on the Fly website does show the basic plastic of the eight gun wing, and you get that in the kit, they also supply a scribing template for the changes, and the necessary four additional protruding gun barrels in resin. https://www.fly814.cz/products/a32019-hawker-hurricane-mk-iib/#img-0481-jpg https://www.fly814.cz/products/a32019-hawker-hurricane-mk-iib/#img-0480-jpg Trumpeter 1/24 kit: agreed, not perfect by any means but streets ahead of the Airfix kit and can be made into something really spectacular with a bit of effort. The fundamentals of shape and outline are excellent, apart from the Mark I rad housing (and possibly the intake, I haven;t looked). Probably Trumpeter's best kit. Edited August 6, 2019 by Work In Progress 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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