VG 33 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Hello As I am building an F-4E Kurnass for the Phantom STGB I am asking here the same question : I am planning to hang under the centerline of my Kurnass a MER with 5 M-117 bombs. I have the MER from the Hasegawa generic box 72-1 but I wonder how is it hung. Inside much of the Phantom kits there is only a big fuel tank with its dedicated pylon. Is the MER directly attached under the aircraft belly or by the way of a special pylon? Cheers. Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Have a look here; https://sites.google.com/site/cagsnavairnotes/home/phantom-pylons Julien 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VG 33 Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 Hi Julien This is very usefull. Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Short answer - the centerline fuel tanks had their integral pylons (as did the outboards). In 1/72, the Fujimi J79-Phantom kits have seperate centerline and outboard pylons, in addition to tanks with integral ones. Cheers, Andre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VG 33 Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 45 minutes ago, Hook said: Short answer - the centerline fuel tanks had their integral pylons (as did the outboards). In 1/72, the Fujimi J79-Phantom kits have seperate centerline and outboard pylons, in addition to tanks with integral ones. Cheers, Andre Thank you. I have checked part 65 in a Fujimi kit could be a nice base as the centerline MER adaptor. Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, VG 33 said: Thank you. I have checked part 65 in a Fujimi kit could be a nice base as the centerline MER adaptor. Patrick Yes, that sounds about right. Cheers, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, VG 33 said: I am planning to hang under the centerline of my Kurnass a MER with 5 M-117 bombs. I have the MER from the Hasegawa generic box 72-1 but I wonder how is it hung. Inside much of the Phantom kits there is only a big fuel tank with its dedicated pylon. Is the MER directly attached under the aircraft belly or by the way of a special pylon? From war-thunder about 1/3 down the thread is an F-4E in Vietnam. It has the load out you describe and it is using a mount between the MER and the plane. Most kits usually supply the pylon separate. https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/440820-mcdonnell-douglas-f-4e-phantom-ii-last-version-of-the-vietnam-war/ Dennis Edited July 24, 2019 by Corsairfoxfouruncle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 7 hours ago, VG 33 said: As I am building an F-4E Kurnass While on the subject, the two AirDoc / Double Ugly volumes on the Phantom in IDF / AF service are well worth checking out (as are all volumes in this series). Cheers, Andre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VG 33 Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 41 minutes ago, Hook said: While on the subject, the two AirDoc / Double Ugly volumes on the Phantom in IDF / AF service are well worth checking out (as are all volumes in this series). Cheers, Andre I am waiting for both volumes. Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VG 33 Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 59 minutes ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: From war-thunder about 1/3 down the thread is an F-4E in Vietnam. It has the load out you describe and it is using a mount between the MER and the plane. Most kits usually supply the pylon separate. https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/440820-mcdonnell-douglas-f-4e-phantom-ii-last-version-of-the-vietnam-war/ Dennis The picture of JV 287 with M-117 & Mk 82 is very intersting as for once there is enough light under the belly of this Phantom. Patrick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Some pics here in an earlier thread may help: Jari 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VG 33 Posted July 25, 2019 Author Share Posted July 25, 2019 7 hours ago, Finn said: Some pics here in an earlier thread may help: Jari Thank you. It is very usefull as I missed this thread at the time. Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 13 hours ago, VG 33 said: I am waiting for both volumes. You won't be disappointed! Cheers, Andre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 I don't know if this sheds any light on things? John 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 and another one. John 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VG 33 Posted July 27, 2019 Author Share Posted July 27, 2019 38 minutes ago, canberra kid said: and another one. John Thank you very much John as this will be very useful. I am sure this is the technical order I was looking for in the Internet. Patrick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 No problem Patrick. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith T Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 3 hours ago, canberra kid said: and another one. John Do you have a similar diagram for the mounting of the centreline gun-pod ? I have the Wolfpack gun-pod set, but the included pylon appears too shallow............ is there an adaptor in the Hasegawa kits that it mounts on ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, Keith T said: Do you have a similar diagram for the mounting of the centreline gun-pod ? I have the Wolfpack gun-pod set, but the included pylon appears too shallow............ is there an adaptor in the Hasegawa kits that it mounts on ? @Keith T here you go, this is from the British AP but I'm assuming it's the same as the American kit? John Edited July 28, 2019 by canberra kid Typo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Excellent stuff! Cheers, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith T Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 (edited) Thanks John, I'm mounting the Wolfpack gun-pod on a 1:48 Hasegawa FGR2, so that's perfect. The part missing from the 1:48 Wolfpack gun-pod pylon is the 'Adjustable Nose Fairing' - labelled '2' in your first diagrams. It's present on their 1:32 pylon, - hence my guess that the part might be included in the 1:48 Hasegawa kit itself, but not in the available 1:32 kits. Can anyone confirm this assumption, before I start modifying my 1:48 Wolfpack pylon unnecessarily ? (Kit itself is still buried deep in the loft) Thanks Edited July 29, 2019 by Keith T 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Here is an empty MER on a F-4 c/l: Jari 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Here is how they had the SUU-16 gun pod already on the c/l pylon during the war in SEA: Jari 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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