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49 minutes ago, Jabba said:

I will become another of the usual suspects. I have a couple of things that will fit, if I can find them.

Thanks Jabba, a lot of these GB proposals only take place because of us "usual suspects" and you and your excellent builds are always welcome.

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Might look at the Naval Su-33 in the stash......:hmmm:

 

Other front runners (off the top of my head) would be a Ukrainian Su-27 or perhaps a Russian Su-24 (pending decals...need to revisit the sheet I picked up not too long ago).

 

The MiG-31 is going to be squirreled away for the hopeful MiG-25/31 STGB.

 

 

edit: Just confirmed the sheet has a Russian Fencer-C unit based out of Karshi Airfield in Uzbekistan until 1992.

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22 minutes ago, helios16v said:

Might look at the Naval Su-33 in the stash......:hmmm:

 

Other front runners (off the top of my head) would be a Ukrainian Su-27 or perhaps a Russian Su-24 (pending decals...need to revisit the sheet I picked up not too long ago).

 

The MiG-31 is going to be squirreled away for the hopeful MiG-25/31 STGB.

 

 

edit: Just confirmed the sheet has a Russian Fencer-C unit based out of Karshi Airfield in Uzbekistan until 1992.

All great choices Chris, but I must admit that I'm glad the Su-24 fits the bill, it really is a great aircraft. Which scale will you be building it in as she is a big bugger.

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Nice idea for a build. Not sure the date that this will be? - but if the current soviet build works out igniting my russian metal mojo then I could be interested too

I'd really like to do a Mig-21 also?

(this is quickly becoming the MiG-21 STGB :D)

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27 minutes ago, modelling minion said:

All great choices Chris, but I must admit that I'm glad the Su-24 fits the bill, it really is a great aircraft. Which scale will you be building it in as she is a big bugger.

The MiG-31 is the 1/48 AMK beast, the rest are only 1/72.  The Su-24 is only the old Dragon kit, so I'm sure has it's issues...but it was cheap.  It'll be ok.  :lol:

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3 minutes ago, Dansk said:

Nice idea for a build. Not sure the date that this will be? - but if the current soviet build works out igniting my russian metal mojo then I could be interested too

I'd really like to do a Mig-21 also?

(this is quickly becoming the MiG-21 STGB :D)

Thanks Paul, I will add you to the list.

I have no problems with their being lots of Mig-21's in the GB as they are a favourite of mine so the more the merrier.

3 minutes ago, helios16v said:

The MiG-31 is the 1/48 AMK beast, the rest are only 1/72.  The Su-24 is only the old Dragon kit, so I'm sure has it's issues...but it was cheap.  It'll be ok.  :lol:

I've got the AMK Mig-31 too, and she is a beast, but I'm saving her for the Mig-25/31 STGB.

I'm sure your Su-24 will be fine, I've not come across a kit yet that hasn't got issues, yet strangely most of them look like the aircraft they're supposed to.

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8 minutes ago, modelling minion said:

I'm sure your Su-24 will be fine, I've not come across a kit yet that hasn't got issues, yet strangely most of them look like the aircraft they're supposed to.

I know, right?  :lol:

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1 hour ago, helios16v said:

The MiG-31 is the 1/48 AMK beast, the rest are only 1/72.  The Su-24 is only the old Dragon kit, so I'm sure has it's issues...but it was cheap.  It'll be ok.  :lol:

you had me very worried for a second when you mentioned the Su-24 and had 1/48th in the same post!!!! I though you may have finally gone completely mad and decided to build that abomination called the 1/48th Trumpeter Su-24!!! I've been on mine for 2 years and the end is still not in sight!  

 

I've built the Dragon one, not too bad.

 

Gosh I wish someone would produce a good Su-24, I'd buy it in a flash! I'd even buy the resin Collect-Wire one if I could find one. Anything would be better than that Trumpy piece of :poop:

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9 hours ago, Valkyrie said:

Yes please Craig 

I think something from Ukraine or Belarus 

Thanks for signing up Val, you always build interesting subjects so its great to have you aboard.

I have a feeling that Ukraine will be quite a popular country for subjects, especially as it includes anything that is involved in their current issues with a couple of thousand heavily armed Russian "tourists".

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1 hour ago, modelling minion said:

Thanks for signing up Val, you always build interesting subjects so its great to have you aboard.

I have a feeling that Ukraine will be quite a popular country for subjects, especially as it includes anything that is involved in their current issues with a couple of thousand heavily armed Russian "tourists".

Thanks Craig glad to be along! “Heavily armed Russian tourists” I love that, i can see me using that a lot haha

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On 7/22/2019 at 5:25 PM, trickyrich said:

you had me very worried for a second when you mentioned the Su-24 and had 1/48th in the same post!!!! I though you may have finally gone completely mad and decided to build that abomination called the 1/48th Trumpeter Su-24!!! I've been on mine for 2 years and the end is still not in sight!  

 

I've built the Dragon one, not too bad.

 

Gosh I wish someone would produce a good Su-24, I'd buy it in a flash! I'd even buy the resin Collect-Wire one if I could find one. Anything would be better than that Trumpy piece of :poop:

 

Kittyhawk has one in the works

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2 hours ago, JOCKNEY said:

Would a Contrail Tu-95 Bear fit the bill for this GB ?

It most certainly would Pat.

The only proviso being that it was operated in the time frame of the GB, but there were still plenty in service at the time so I don't see it being a problem.

I shall add you to the list mate.

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On 7/22/2019 at 7:01 PM, modelling minion said:

That's alright mate, no problem. We will be here if you change your mind.

Don't forget though that a fair few if the ex-Soviet republics now use Western equipment such as the UH-1, EC-145 and CASA C-295 and also Western vehicles such as the Humvee and even Western ships like the OPV-62.

Yeeep......only on the morning of last thursday saw this Humvee

https://www.google.com/amp/s/riafan.ru/amp/1176535-dostavshiesya-ot-vsu-amerikanskie-trofei-pokazali-na-repeticii-parada-pobedy-v-dnr

....without machine gun and AGS-17 but with  infantryman with RPK-74 in the cargo compartment on one central streets city.....as say "voentorg"

On 7/23/2019 at 10:34 AM, modelling minion said:

especially as it includes anything that is involved in their current issues with a couple of thousand heavily armed Russians "tourists".

They were so heavily armed that they rushed to the tanks with their bare hands:

(e.t.c)

And in this video, Girkin complains that only one tank (!!!) was assaulted by a tank reserve base in Artyomovsk (with hundreds of reserve tanks), and another tank (one tank!!!!) was assaulted  by armories with millions reserve  of small-arms barrels reserve base in Soledar:

( sorry but no translate)

these two tanks were destroyed, and the assault groups suffered losses without achieving success.

But weapons from these warehouses, as they say, still participated in the conflict ... they simply sold it to the participants of the conflict for money.

Therefore, I, as a person living in directly in this conflict, are very interested in how you define these

“Heavily armed Russian tourists”?

And don't It is necessary to bring tales of the opposite side, because they have been told before the Russians use atomic bombs here, becouse can write right away: "Buryat airborne equestrian divers."

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https://dambiev.livejournal.com/571643.html

(sarcasm)

Of course volunteer was, of course many was from Russian, as and from Italy, and from Serbia, and from UK, and from Spain, and from USA (I even went down in the elevator with one of them with the call sign Texas when I was in one of the local  ministries).....does that mean it's worth writing about “Heavily armed UK tourists”, “Heavily armed USA tourists” e.t.c.

(sarcasm)

 

B.R.

Serge

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Aardvark said:

Therefore, I, as a person living in directly in this conflict, are very interested in how you define these

“Heavily armed Russian tourists”?

Hi Serge, if I caused you any offence by my comment I am truly sorry, and in no way to I try to make light of what has and is happening in the Ukraine, I was merely quoting the response by a Russian official when asked about the presence of Russian troops in the battle zone by claiming that they were all tourists. And you are quite right that there have been many volunteers from around the World (including the UK) who have been involved in this conflict.

 

Now, would you please do us all the honour of bringing your truly expert knowledge to this proposed GB?

 

Craig.

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5 hours ago, modelling minion said:

Hi Serge, if I caused you any offence by my comment I am truly sorry,

Absolutely no problem....I understand that this war is not interesting to the majority of the population of the planet except those who are directly involved in it and those who make money on it. I do not have goals and objectives for someone in something here to persuade and someone to prove something about this war. I also perfectly understand that Britmodeller is not a branch of the world government,  or the White House, or Downing Street 10 or the Kremlin e.t.c.and has absolutely no influence on politics or propaganda ....and even if all Britmodeller users start writing “stop this war” or “leave these people alone,” no one will do anything. Because this war is only a small part of the new big cold war.

with the only difference that the same systems are fighting in this new cold war, there is no opposition between capitalism and socialism as it was before, i.e.  in fact, the situation is like in WW1, when one empire wants to destroy another. It is from this logic that one must proceed to understand propaganda from both sides.

Therefore, I understand everything and do not think that you need to apologize for anything, because you are not making money on this war, so why should you apologize?

5 hours ago, modelling minion said:

I was merely quoting the response by a Russian official when asked about the presence of Russian troops in the battle zone by claiming that they were all tourists.

It was Putin.  He said something like that. ( ...А-ha, 

@modelling minion

listen to the deep night enemy's

voices RT? 😁😁😁

In fact, 130 km from me to the border with the Russian Federation, so they can always bring their troops here in a couple of hours, but neither I nor you can identify them, because they don’t run around the city showing everyone the documents  in which it is written: "This is a Army Russian Federation"? 😁

Probably in 2014, when both republic was on one step from destroyed, in ILLovaisk was Russian troops  who are called "tourists" but maybe this  was private military company...I don't know....all about this I'm know from Internet, as and  you....

Just, I'm used to trusting documents, but I know perfectly well that any evidence and any document can be faked....

5 hours ago, modelling minion said:

Now, would you please do us all the honour of bringing your truly expert knowledge to this proposed GB?

I'm not expert.

But of course I'm help if I can.

 

B.R.

Serge

 

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17 hours ago, Aardvark said:

It was Putin.  He said something like that. ( ...А-ha, 

@modelling minion

listen to the deep night enemy's

voices RT? 😁😁😁

Ha ha, yes I think it was Putin, but not on RT as we don't get that with our TV package, probably the BBC who are biased in their own special way.

17 hours ago, Aardvark said:

I'm not expert.

But of course I'm help if I can.

You certainly are as far as I'm concerned.

I shall add you to our list.

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1 hour ago, modelling minion said:

but not on RT as we don't get that with our TV package, probably the BBC who are biased in their own special way.

How change would.....in Soviet Union time some his citizen's listened at night to the BBC on VHF radio waves, Soviet ECM service they were jammed....at now their ads

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on Russian military aircraft...

😁😁

1 hour ago, modelling minion said:

I shall add you to our list.

I am for any event other than hunger strike!

😁😁

 

1 hour ago, modelling minion said:

who are biased in their own special way.

About BBC I don't know, My package does not show it now, but once I had Euronews simultaneously showed the Ukrainian and Russian editions in one TV package...they had the same video sequence, but the textual meaning of the speaker behind the scenes was different, sometimes oppositely different.....something like that with Wikipedia, but more thin, just some fact have in some national Wikipedia but in other national Wikipedia no this fact.

Therefore, see all national version Wikipedia! 😉

 

Somehow it (propaganda)

works on a global scale.

 

B.R.

Serge

 

 

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