alecras234 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) Here is what i've done so far, i thought id paint the cockpit at this stage before i build the rest of the cockpit, otherwise it would be awkward to paint. Edited July 18, 2019 by alecras234 wrong link 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJJunis Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Looking good! All the Best! Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecras234 Posted July 21, 2019 Author Share Posted July 21, 2019 -I've started painting the cockpit and i weathered a little using aluminium. I will be putting a pilot in the seat, what colour uniform has he? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 53 minutes ago, alecras234 said: I've started painting the cockpit and i weathered a little using aluminium. Cockpit should be grey-green really. I'd suggest that's over weathered. If you want to bring out detail, try dry brushing with a lighter version of the base colour, and add some selective chipping. The black already applied can be used for shadow, but merely suggestion, it's your model. this I presume is the one at Hendon see here https://mab.forumfree.it/?t=75332891 and here Quote I will be putting a pilot in the seat, what colour uniform has he? Depends on how the uniform is moulded. a quick google the chap in the centre is wearing RAF bluegrey uniform, the others look to be in coveralls, probably black. the chap for Defiants is @AndyL Note, Defiant gunners had a special parasuit, combining parachute and liferaft this guiy looks to have overall on but this gunner has a standard uniform I think this on the mannequin here HTH T 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecras234 Posted July 21, 2019 Author Share Posted July 21, 2019 Thanks for the pics. im following what paint it says in the instruction book which is humbrol 78 for the cockpit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 59 minutes ago, alecras234 said: Thanks for the pics. im following what paint it says in the instruction book which is humbrol 78 for the cockpit. OK, just the photo looked like black or dark grey, lookiong again, I can see it's just the lighting. Humbrol 78 is good for RAF Grey-green. Glad the pics helped. cheers T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecras234 Posted July 22, 2019 Author Share Posted July 22, 2019 so i can keep the cockpit that colour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, alecras234 said: so i can keep the cockpit that colour? yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecras234 Posted July 22, 2019 Author Share Posted July 22, 2019 (edited) my pilots have arrived. i googled these but what colour are they? Edited July 22, 2019 by alecras234 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang1989 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 I've always thought the whole concept of these aircraft was pretty cool. Will be watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyL Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 You could do the pilots in their black Prestige flying suit, as they were very popular with Defiant pilots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecras234 Posted July 23, 2019 Author Share Posted July 23, 2019 any images? i cant find pilot images in colour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 6 hours ago, AndyL said: You could do the pilots in their black Prestige flying suit, as they were very popular with Defiant pilots. Like this? Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecras234 Posted July 23, 2019 Author Share Posted July 23, 2019 do i use flat black or tank grey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyL Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Flat Black for pilots suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyL Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 4 hours ago, dogsbody said: Like this? Chris The photos show the Irvin Parasuit worn by air gunners. I'll get a colour call out on those... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 10 hours ago, AndyL said: You could do the pilots in their black Prestige flying suit, as they were very popular with Defiant pilots. I presume the black coverall above are the Prestige Flying suit? Interesting detail I'd never heard of before. 5 minutes ago, AndyL said: Flat Black for pilots suits. 3 hours ago, alecras234 said: do i use flat black or tank grey? Flat black for shadows, and a very dark grey, with a lighter grey for highlights for the rest will give a better scale effect for figure use. If you look at the figures above it should give you an idea of how to shadow and highlight cloth on a figure. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyL Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 7 hours ago, Troy Smith said: I presume the black coverall above are the Prestige Flying suit? Interesting detail I'd never heard of before. Flat black for shadows, and a very dark grey, with a lighter grey for highlights for the rest will give a better scale effect for figure use. If you look at the figures above it should give you an idea of how to shadow and highlight cloth on a figure. HTH Yes Troy, those are the ones, made by Lewis Leathers. The most popular ones were the pre war white suits with the squadron badge on the chest pocket.. There's a Prestige Suit on display at Duxford that was owned by Gordon Sinclair of 19 Squadron. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecras234 Posted July 25, 2019 Author Share Posted July 25, 2019 Shall i do a few washes of black and then a wash over the top of light grey over the dark wash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 39 minutes ago, alecras234 said: Shall i do a few washes of black and then a wash over the top of light grey over the dark wash? The figures are inside? You use acrylic paint? A pretty quick method, paint uniform black, then drybrush quite hard with dark grey, on all the highlights, let dry, the gently drybrush with a lighter grey over the top of the highlights. I am assuming you know what drybrushing is? if not https://paintyourarmy.com/drybrushing/ This looks to have a decent basic guide to smaller scale figure painting. You can combine dry brush and washes if you wish, in that case use a dark grey uniform base, wash with black and highlight with a lighter grey If you were doing a stand alone figure, I'd use a different technique, but this will add depth to a figure in a cockpit, think about how light will shine on the figure, and highlight those points. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecras234 Posted July 31, 2019 Author Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) I have painted the pilot and gunner, what do you think? i tried to give the impression of the gunner wearing his parachute gear. do they look ok? Edited August 3, 2019 by alecras234 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecras234 Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 Hi how do i insert an image from my hard drive please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, alecras234 said: Hi how do i insert an image from my hard drive please? you don't. It has to be hosted online somewhere. I use Flickr, but there are other photo hosting options. The pics you have above are on village photos. there are several threads here on the subject if you need more info https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/forum/15-faqs/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev67 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Always liked the Defiant, as my grandad worked on them in the construction process, as he was a cabinet maker by trade and there was some wood I believe around the rear turret, but can't be certain what part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Can’t help looking at those crew photos and wondering if they knew then what a short straw they’d drawn when they got assigned to Defiants. Poor beggars... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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