helios16v Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) Alright, chatting w/ @trickyrich we figured we'd give this a go to see if it might get enough interest on it's own. Lots of possibilities. It will also tie in nicely w/ @Col.'s proposed interceptor GB. SEAD (Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses) - Wild Weasels - ECM Jammers (think EA-6A/B & EF-111) - Guided missile ships (Tomahawk launchers ) - Special Forces SAM - SAMs (duh ), mobile or fixed, surface or sea (the USN utilized some guided missile cruisers dedicated to the task of air defense). - AAA batteries (mobile or fixed). Post up if it's something you may be interested in. If so we'll get a list going. Buckle up, it's going to be a bumpy ride! 1. helios16v (host) 2. trickyrich (co-host) 3. Col. 4. Corsairfoxfouruncle 5. Jabba 6. Brad 7. theplasticsurgeon 8. Rob G 9. Arniec 10. modelling minion 11. exdraken Edited October 29, 2019 by helios16v 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) Well i need an F-100F, an F-105G, and an F-4G weasel so count me in ? Won't build both but will build one of the two ? Does anyone do an EA-6A in 1/72 ? Or an actual A-6B in 1/72 for that matter ? If so they may be options as well ? "YGBSM" is a favorite acronym of mine. Dennis Edited July 17, 2019 by Corsairfoxfouruncle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 ....and there's no need to ask me either!! ........am happy to Co-Host if you need it as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helios16v Posted July 17, 2019 Author Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) Ooh, I'm not aware of a 1/72 EA-6A. I know Revell did one in 1/48. The USN definitely embraces the Wild Weasel role...as nearly every attack aircraft after the introduction of the Shrike that has flown off the carriers since the A-4 Skyhawks has been utilized in that role...very opposite of the USAF in their use of specific squadrons for the role. Edited July 18, 2019 by helios16v 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helios16v Posted July 17, 2019 Author Share Posted July 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, trickyrich said: ....and there's no need to ask me either!! ........am happy to Co-Host if you need it as well. And you're hired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 19 hours ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: Does anyone do an EA-6A in 1/72 ? Dennis I am sure that Fujimi id this in 1/72. As an aside, count me in with this one. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 24 minutes ago, Jabba said: I am sure that Fujimi id this in 1/72. As an aside, count me in with this one. Both Fujimi and Italeri did one in 1/72nd scale. Would aircraft used for Iron Hand type missions be eligible (both the bombers and their escorts)? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helios16v Posted July 18, 2019 Author Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Wez said: Would aircraft used for Iron Hand type missions be eligible (both the bombers and their escorts)? Regarding Iron Hand aircraft, I think I'd like to keep the birds focused on loadouts pertaining to the actual suppression of SAM/AAA sites, at least for now. If it were to be opened up to the MiG Cap escorts as well, it would open it up to nearly every aircraft flown off USN carriers since the Iron Hand missions in the mid-60s. As is, the USN embraced to concept to the point that those mission profiles were trained on (and flown) by all attack squadrons (quite likely even today). If there was a story regarding a particular aircraft/pilot during an Iron Hand op, I may be open to an exemption. But as a general rule I'd like to hold MiG Cap off for now. I'm trying not to overlap Col's Interceptor GB too much. @trickyrich, open to second opinions if you have other thoughts on the matter. Edited July 18, 2019 by helios16v 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnT Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 You could stick a Vulcan in there too from 1982 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helios16v Posted July 18, 2019 Author Share Posted July 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, JohnT said: You could stick a Vulcan in there too from 1982 I'd forgotten about that one. Yup, Black Buck Vulcans would be eligible, as ironic as it sounds for a strategic bomber being a weasel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 @Wez @helios16v I'd sort of have to agree with Chris on this one as well. While the bombers and escorts were part of these missions they weren't the actual "suppression" aircraft, they just followed in once everything was sort of clear. The Shrike armed A-3's, A-4's, and A-6's used on these missions are perfect though. I'm planning an Yom Kipper war Israeli F-4E Kurnass for this one, though a later one with with LGB would be cool.. The Israeli's pretty much used their Phantoms for SEAD operations almost right from the start right up to the types retirement. In fact most of the air to air victories in Phantoms occurred on SEAD missions. It's not cheap but if anyone interested in the subject then this is a fantastic book; https://www.amazon.com/Israeli-Phantoms-Kurnass-Ultimate-Collection/dp/3935687818 I've got Part 2 as well, deals a lot with the RF-4E and latter operations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helios16v Posted July 18, 2019 Author Share Posted July 18, 2019 I'm in so much trouble if this thing actually makes it through...I don't know what to pull from the stash. I've got a plethora of aircraft that have been outfitted for the role, plus on the ground side I've got a couple mobile SAMs and a few AAAs. Most likely candidates however will probably be either the Prowler (1/72) or Raven (1/48). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 I presume all era of AA is good? If so I have a couple of WW2 tracked flak guns and an 88 I could build. If not I could build my F-105 WW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helios16v Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share Posted July 19, 2019 8 hours ago, Brad said: I presume all era of AA is good? If so I have a couple of WW2 tracked flak guns and an 88 I could build. If not I could build my F-105 WW. As far as AAA goes, I don’t see why not. Air side is a bit harder to justify as to my knowledge there wasn’t any special load out or mission profile for AAA suppression. It was just another bombing run. I could very well be mistaken though, as to be honest I’m not thoroughly versed on WW2 AAA suppression. I’ll get you added. Welcome aboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Sign me up! No idea what with but sure I'll think of something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helios16v Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share Posted July 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, Col. said: Sign me up! No idea what with but sure I'll think of something Already gotcha mate! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, helios16v said: Already gotcha mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplasticsurgeon Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 On 7/18/2019 at 7:57 PM, Wez said: Both Fujimi and Italeri did one in 1/72nd scale. Would aircraft used for Iron Hand type missions be eligible (both the bombers and their escorts)? This is the Fujimi EA-6A model. And I can't think of any qualifying kits in my stash - time to buy some more at RIAT. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob G Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Finally, a reason for me to the Miniart quad Maxim gun-on-a-truck kit. I've been wondering how to justify that. Also, I can see having to decide between a Shilka and a Tunguska... (Enzo, be quiet ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 31 minutes ago, Rob G said: Also, I can see having to decide between a Shilka and a Tunguska... (Enzo, be quiet ) I had forgotten about them! I've had my eye on a Meng Shilka for quite sometime....this could be a good excuse! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arniec Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 hmmmm, this sounds interesting. As I have enough in the stash it will not be a problem to find something. so I am in. Cheers, 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 oh I found this while looking up info on UB-32 rocket pods. not really related and maybe not the most effective if used for AA stuff but it'd probably make you mess your pants if it was fired at you! http://armamentresearch.com/tag/ub-32-57/ 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 You can add my name to the list Chris, I really need to add a Spangdahlem F-4G Phantom to my collection and I already have the kit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helios16v Posted July 25, 2019 Author Share Posted July 25, 2019 25 minutes ago, modelling minion said: You can add my name to the list Chris, I really need to add a Spangdahlem F-4G Phantom to my collection and I already have the kit. Mmm yes, the lovely Spang birds. Now for the real tough question.....scheme. Classic SEA? Stunning Euro1? Or all business Hill Grey? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Just now, helios16v said: Mmm yes, the lovely Spang birds. Now for the real tough question.....scheme. Classic SEA? Stunning Euro1? Or all business Hill Grey? That is the most important question! I've got decals for the Hill Grey scheme but I would really like to build one in Euro 1 as that is the scheme I remember seeing (and have pics of) at air shows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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