Tbolt Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 13 minutes ago, Silverkite said: At car shop of a friend of mine, random french car, torx screws, Bon Jovi Always, yes way Jose! Inside their hangars, french airplane, standard screws? On what kind of twisted world I'm living? Counter clockwise? Luigi They look like Phillips screws to me which are quite common on aircraft but you will find some Torx and quite a lot of Torq-set screws on other aircraft as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbolt Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 On 3/18/2021 at 7:29 PM, Jabba said: Neither do screws if they are meant to be them instead of rivets, sorry holes for rivets. Actually looking more at the test shot pictures they are indeed representing screws, I don't think they have added any rivets at all. So really adding a hole is the best way they could represent them in this scale, it's not like they could add tiny little crosses for the Phillips heads 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 9 hours ago, Tbolt said: Actually looking more at the test shot pictures they are indeed representing screws, I don't think they have added any rivets at all. So really adding a hole is the best way they could represent them in this scale, it's not like they could add tiny little crosses for the Phillips heads 😉 If you look at the fin it's covered in dimples (again, not rivets, rivets do not leave a depression, they are either flush or proud). How deep is the cross point in a Phillips headed screw? Let's say about 5mm or 0.07mm in 1/72nd. 9 hours ago, Tbolt said: They look like Phillips screws to me which are quite common on aircraft but you will find some Torx and quite a lot of Torq-set screws on other aircraft as well. Phillips screws tend to be the most commonly used type of screw, followed by slot head. Most quick release fasteners are slot head but you do get Phillips versions too. In 38 years of aircraft maintenance I've yet to see a Torx fastener on an aircraft, I'm not saying they're not out there, but I haven't seen them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbolt Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 10 hours ago, Wez said: ) If you look at the fin it's covered in dimples (again, not rivets, rivets do not leave a depression, they are either flush or proud). How deep is the cross point in a Phillips headed screw? Let's say about 5mm or 0.07mm in 1/72nd. Phillips screws tend to be the most commonly used type of screw, followed by slot head. Most quick release fasteners are slot head but you do get Phillips versions too. In 38 years of aircraft maintenance I've yet to see a Torx fastener on an aircraft, I'm not saying they're not out there, but I haven't seen them. I don't know why you keep saying "not rivets, rivets do not leave a depression, they are either flush or proud", I know what a rivet looks like, why call them panel lines on a kit as they are not actually panel lines and they are not trenches on the real thing? 😉 Anyway I think what they are representing on the fin are all Phillips head screws ( at least most of them, I don't think they planned to represent rivets ), again I don't think they have added any "rivet" ( the quotes are to keep you happy 😉 ) holes to this kit. As for the size of a Phillips in 1/72, the point of a hole to represent them is because they often show up on the real aircraft unlike a flush rivet head which are barely visible normally. Obviously they couldn't get them to scale just like there's many things they can't like with panel lines canopy thickness etc, it's obviously a compromise. I'm happy if they only represent screws and quick release fasteners as long as they are subtle. From what I've seen slotted head screws are not that common except on quick release fasteners, but Phillips are also very common here. But it obviously depends on the type, Airbus mainly use Torq-set. Of the top of my head one place that uses Torx are some of the acoustic lining panel in a CF6 intake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 7 hours ago, Wez said: In 38 years of aircraft maintenance I've yet to see a Torx fastener on an aircraft, I'm not saying they're not out there, but I haven't seen them. Phantoms had Hi-torq fasteners which were fun to remove if they had been fitted a long while. I also think if my memory serves me well that there were some fitted to Nimrods. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis pacheco Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 https://www.facebook.com/Bassin-Maquette-136603423173762/photos/pcb.1796755003825254/1796754967158591/ 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted March 27, 2021 Author Share Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) Thanks Luis. So, next boxing - ref. 72072 - Dassault Mirage 2000-5F V.P. Edited March 28, 2021 by Homebee 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieGolf2009 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Homebee said: So, next boxing - ref. 72072 - Dassault Mirage 2000-5F V.P. Although the current boxing seems to have all the parts necessary in order to make a Dash 5, I'll be ordering 3 more of this one. It's Mirage heaven this year. 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterblank Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 On 3/21/2021 at 12:24 AM, Wez said: In 38 years of aircraft maintenance I've yet to see a Torx fastener on an aircraft, Check out the 787, they’re all over that thing! But you gotta use torx plus, or you strip out the screw head with regular torx.... Speaking of Mirage 2000’s, are the Peruvian birds bespoke versions or can I use the Modelsvit kit? Best regards....Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEMPESTMK5 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Good evening An open box on a french modeller forum https://master194.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=116624&p=1520483#p1520483 Patrice 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbolt Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 hour ago, TEMPESTMK5 said: Good evening An open box on a french modeller forum https://master194.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=116624&p=1520483#p1520483 Patrice Some of that wiring and hydraulic line detail looks quite impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiG-Mech Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Looks good. Except the italian decals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkOwl Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Interesting box opener from Xanatahos. Regarding the decal sheet and from my documentation, the Mirage 2000 Kinetic 1/48 decal sheet and other Mirage 2000 aftermarket decals, should the six French, six Greek and six Indian national roundels be all six of the same dimensions ? This does not seem to be the case with the Modelsvit 1/72 decals. 🙂 SharkOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertone139 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) 20 hours ago, MiG-Mech said: Looks good. Except the italian decals. Italian decals always look good but in these ones the green is too pale. Regardless of the plane.🤣 Edited March 30, 2021 by Robertone139 added text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbolt Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 53 minutes ago, Robertone139 said: Italian decals always look good but in these ones the green is too pale. Regardless of the plane.🤣 Of course they are not Italian, they are meant to be Indian, but they seemed to have used red instead of orange so they look more like Italian markings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shalako Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Unless I have missed it, when will the kit be available at hobby stores? Any specific date to start looking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Shalako said: Unless I have missed it, when will the kit be available at hobby stores? Any specific date to start looking? Any moment now, the Big H are advertising them as a future release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEMPESTMK5 Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 Good morning I bought one from this shop http://www.bassin-maquette.fr/index.php?id_product=11724&controller=product Cheers Patrice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted April 2, 2021 Author Share Posted April 2, 2021 (edited) Released - ref.72073 - Dassault Mirage 2000C https://www.modelsvit-eshop.com/en/c/aviation-1/mirage-2000c-multirole-jet-fighter-158 https://www.facebook.com/modelsvit/posts/2933635646905467 Source: https://ua-hobby.com/products/1-72-mirage-2000c-modelsvit-72073 V.P. Edited May 16, 2021 by Homebee 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shalako Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 21 hours ago, Wez said: Any moment now, the Big H are advertising them as a future release Cheers Vez. The price seems a bit high but, let's wait a while and see. I keep my fingers crossed for Plastmodel to offer us a better price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiG-Mech Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Concerning the "italian" decals, there is an indian photographer on instagram, and some of the roundels look very reddish. https://instagram.com/deb_rana?igshid=e5bh6m2gipac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAGATIGER Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Hi there I put an order to Hannants last Friday because they just message the availability of the Modelsvit AMD Mirage 2000C, so I got one of those plus some other stuff (to be honest I also have order 2 Heller Mirage 2000 C and 1 Mirage 2000N from Kingkit, then I'll keep you posted which of them arrive here down the border in middle of Bananas Republics at the other side of the pond Regards Armando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eng Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Mine arrived from the Big H today and its a fine looking kit, I'm no expert on the Mirage family but this kit, for 1/72, is packed with detail. I had already purchased the EA version of the Mirage III a few weeks ago and when I saw the quality of that kit the 2000 was too tempting. Colour option 2 for me, that French machine in the sand/tan looks lovely. Eng 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbolt Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 On 4/10/2021 at 9:53 PM, MiG-Mech said: Concerning the "italian" decals, there is an indian photographer on instagram, and some of the roundels look very reddish. https://instagram.com/deb_rana?igshid=e5bh6m2gipac I can't speak for all IAF aircraft ( or photo accuracy and digital cameras have always struggled with accurate orange/red reproduction ), but obviously the colour on the indian flag is orange and this picture is the airframe markings from the kit. I don't have the kit and maybe they have got it orange, but it looks very similar to the red in the French markings in the picture of the decal sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Mine arrived on Friday and I'm generally very pleased with it, the divots on the fin will have to be filled and I can confirm, the Indian roundels definitely look red not orange, good job I've got the Bright Spark decals to overcome that if I needed to however, mine is scheduled to receive some Model Art decals in the French Fancy 2 GB starting in July. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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