Homebee Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 (edited) Modelsvit is working on a 1/72nd Dassault Mirage 2000 family. Source: https://www.facebook.com/modelsvit/photos/a.1859368940998815/2393286317607072/ Quote Dear Fellows, Following your requests, We're glad to announce that designing process of Mirage 2000 (1/72 scale) is under way... V.P. Edited June 30 by Homebee 8
pinky coffeeboat Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 Good news. Pity it always seems to take so long for a manufacturer to get round to the Dassault delta family. Hopefully they will release the whole range of M2000 with all their subtle differences. It may well say that on faceache but I don't use it. Jeff
Phantome Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 This is great news. The Mirage 2000 is a gorgeous aircraft and probably the worst represented 4th gen fighter out there. The old Italeri kit just doesn't cut it anymore. I hope they don't turn it into a rivet-fest though in light of their other kits... 2
Hook Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Phantome said: The old Italeri kit just doesn't cut it anymore. Shapewise, the Heller kits beat the Italeri hands down. Like their B-58 kit, Italeri's Deux Mille kit suffers from a mixup of length with and without pitot tube, throwing off the entire shape. Let's see some Modelsvit Mirage magic! Cheers, Andre 1
Vultures1 Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 Oh brave new world that has such wonders in it!!! Or at least the promise of them ... Looking forward to learning more
madcop Posted July 16, 2019 Posted July 16, 2019 19 hours ago, Laurent said: God exists ! True ! I met him in the backseat of my Modelsvit Su-22UM3K ! 🈚 1 4
CT7567 Posted July 16, 2019 Posted July 16, 2019 On 7/15/2019 at 8:18 AM, Hook said: Shapewise, the Heller kits beat the Italeri hands down. Like their B-58 kit, Italeri's Deux Mille kit suffers from a mixup of length with and without pitot tube, throwing off the entire shape. Let's see some Modelsvit Mirage magic! Cheers, Andre Indeed, and unlike the Hustler, since the probe length relative to the overall dimension is significant, the error in the Italeri kit is really obvious - even before knowing what was wrong with the Mirage, I could tell something was "off." Here's hoping Modelsvit continues their record for improving over the competition.
Aardvark Posted July 16, 2019 Posted July 16, 2019 Hmmmm, 🤔 the ejection seat and engine for the Mirage 2000 have already been made, as I assume. 😁 Probably they will be the same as the Mirage 4000? 😉 B.R. Serge 1
Wez Posted July 16, 2019 Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) On 15/07/2019 at 11:17, pinky coffeeboat said: Hopefully they will release the whole range of M2000 with all their subtle differences. Yes please but only if... On 15/07/2019 at 12:02, Phantome said: I hope they don't turn it into a rivet-fest though in light of their other kits... Let's live in hope! The Mirage family is smooth, not a divot in sight! Please Modelsvit, don't cover the 2000 in holes like you did your IIIE (which I understand won't be present on the revised kit thank goodness)! On 15/07/2019 at 12:07, Laurent said: God exists ! Agreed!! Edited July 16, 2019 by Wez 4
Phantome Posted July 16, 2019 Posted July 16, 2019 On 7/15/2019 at 1:18 PM, Hook said: Shapewise, the Heller kits beat the Italeri hands down. Like their B-58 kit, Italeri's Deux Mille kit suffers from a mixup of length with and without pitot tube, throwing off the entire shape. Let's see some Modelsvit Mirage magic! Cheers, Andre Yes, and that has always been the unholy tradeoff in Mirage 2000 kits: the accurate but antiquated Heller or the inaccurate but slightly better surface detail (still way less than stellar) Italeri.
Hook Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 6 hours ago, Phantome said: Yes, and that has always been the unholy tradeoff in Mirage 2000 kits: the accurate but antiquated Heller or the inaccurate but slightly better surface detail (still way less than stellar) Italeri. I prefer rescribing the Heller to the Italeri. Once you notice the wing sweep error and the stretched look of the latter, it cannot be unseen. Cheers, Andre
ivand Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 Quite a lot of French delta goodness, lately and none too soon. Like the proverbial buses...
pinky coffeeboat Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Hook said: I prefer rescribing the Heller to the Italeri. Once you notice the wing sweep error and the stretched look of the latter, it cannot be unseen. Cheers, Andre Exactly - the wing sweep is wrong and coupled with the elongated fuselage, the whole model "looks" kind of like a Mirage 2000 but just weirdly proportioned. Jeff
Hoops Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 I've been hoping for years for a new tool M2000, and looks like somebody is finally doing one. I'm hoping that when the kit is released we'll see some fresh decals as well. Cheers! Hoops
Glen Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 Is it just the italeri 1/72 kit that is affected or is their 1/48 version similarly afflicted?
Hook Posted July 27, 2019 Posted July 27, 2019 6 hours ago, Glen said: Is it just the italeri 1/72 kit that is affected or is their 1/48 version similarly afflicted? AFAIK Italeri's 1/48th 2000C kit is based on the earlier Esci one. HTH, Andre
ivand Posted July 27, 2019 Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, Hook said: AFAIK Italeri's 1/48th 2000C kit is based on the earlier Esci one. HTH, Andre But is that good or bad? AFAIK, Esci's 1/48 line didn't quite have a good reputation in general, while some of their 1/72 kits became the industry standard (F-5, F-100,...). Even then, some of their 1/72 offerings were quite bad too (Crusader, Mirage F-1, ...). Apparently, it all depended on who made the moulds, as they always outsourced that. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Edited July 27, 2019 by ivand
Wez Posted July 28, 2019 Posted July 28, 2019 9 hours ago, ivand said: But is that good or bad? AFAIK, Esci's 1/48 line didn't quite have a good reputation in general, while some of their 1/72 kits became the industry standard (F-5, F-100,...). Even then, some of their 1/72 offerings were quite bad too (Crusader, Mirage F-1, ...). Apparently, it all depended on who made the moulds, as they always outsourced that. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I can't speak for the quality of the kit because I haven't seen one however, I do know it was based upon the early prototypes.
Modelraynz Posted July 28, 2019 Posted July 28, 2019 On 17/07/2019 at 16:59, Hook said: Once you notice the wing sweep error and the stretched look of the latter, it cannot be unseen. Cheers, Andre THIS. i have one italeri kit in the stash, but just looks wrong...so cant wait for a new tool! K though though fo using italeri to tidy up some of the chunky heller parts
Phantome Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 So, my only misgiving about this kit (besides the possibility of it being a rivet-fest), is price. Modelsvit is not exactly known for its competitive prices and if this kit is going to cost £30 or more, it's going to put off a lot of modelers... 2
Homebee Posted February 28, 2020 Author Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) Source: https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2591522731116762&id=1854784001457309 V.P. Edited October 27, 2020 by Homebee 7
Lightningboy2000 Posted February 28, 2020 Posted February 28, 2020 Always the way! Superdetail & super-correct an old kit, then this happens! Roll on! Looking forward to this as it will come in handy for the "Mirage At 60" display for 2021
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