dickrd Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 4 hours ago, iang said: Do we know for sure when the port side pom poms were fitted? 21-24 April 1941 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iang Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 13 minutes ago, dickrd said: 21-24 April 1941 And the source please Dick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickrd Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 42 minutes ago, iang said: And the source please Dick? A&A documentation in ADM 136/18 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted March 23 Author Share Posted March 23 Thanks, Richard; I had previously believed (as I think had Ian) that the port pom-poms weren’t fitted until after the Bismarck action. A&A documentation is pretty conclusive; fitted in Gib about a month pre-Bismarck, then. I see 2 further sessions of intricate Tetra brass-wrangling in my future; I currently have 4 complete pom-poms. Ah well; adds more visual interest! 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iang Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 It also changes things as far as the photographic evidence is concerned. I have an original photo, taken from an aircraft that has just taken off, showing 12 Swordfish on deck armed with torpedoes. The port side pom-poms are in place. I've just checked the log details as recorded by Naval History net and the only time there is a record of 12+ torpedo armed Swordfish after April 21 is during the Bismarck chase. An Interesting detail revealed by the photo is the bow round down between the two catapults has the starboard third overpainted in a very dark grey. It also looks like the starboard catapult mechanism is exposed at the bow end (and I assume not functioning). Edit Crisp has pointed out that it's the cradle on the starboard catapult. Once you've seen it, impossible to mistake for anything else... One of the drawbacks of very high magnification. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickrd Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 (edited) 12 hours ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said: Thanks, Richard; I had previously believed (as I think had Ian) that the port pom-poms weren’t fitted until after the Bismarck action. A&A documentation is pretty conclusive; fitted in Gib about a month pre-Bismarck, then. I see 2 further sessions of intricate Tetra brass-wrangling in my future; I currently have 4 complete pom-poms. Ah well; adds more visual interest! In case it makes any visual difference, the two fitted in April 1941 were Mk VIA mountings with Mk VIII "low velocity" guns. Edited March 24 by dickrd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAF4EVER Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 (edited) 10 hours ago, iang said: It also changes things as far as the photographic evidence is concerned. I have an original photo, taken from an aircraft that has just taken off, showing 12 Swordfish on deck armed with torpedoes. The port side pom-poms are in place. I've just checked the log details as recorded by Naval History net and the only time there is a record of 12+ torpedo armed Swordfish after April 21 is during the Bismarck chase. An Interesting detail revealed by the photo is the bow round down between the two catapults has the starboard third overpainted in a very dark grey. It also looks like the starboard catapult mechanism is exposed at the bow end (and I assume not functioning). Any chance of seeing this photo, please? Edited March 24 by RAF4EVER forgot to be polite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iang Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 1 hour ago, RAF4EVER said: Any chance of seeing this photo, please? Normally I'm happy to share, but not in this case. I've an unpublished manuscript on 'Air Attacks on Bismarck' (with Mark Horan), and intend to use the photo in the book. Sorry. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAF4EVER Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 (edited) OK,thank you for your reply 12 hours ago, iang said: It also changes things as far as the photographic evidence is concerned. I have an original photo, taken from an aircraft that has just taken off, showing 12 Swordfish on deck armed with torpedoes. The port side pom-poms are in place. I've just checked the log details as recorded by Naval History net and the only time there is a record of 12+ torpedo armed Swordfish after April 21 is during the Bismarck chase. An Interesting detail revealed by the photo is the bow round down between the two catapults has the starboard third overpainted in a very dark grey. It also looks like the starboard catapult mechanism is exposed at the bow end (and I assume not functioning). Any chance of seeing this photo? Edited March 24 by RAF4EVER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 Not for the first time, I think I have finished to two side views; still working on the plan view - these are amended as per the discussions above re port side Pom-poms etc - so as far as I can work out, show her as she was at the time of Bismarck action. Plan view follows! Crisp 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Outstanding job, Crisp! Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Seconded! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 18 hours ago, giemme said: Outstanding job, Crisp I concur.... 3 hours ago, CedB said: Seconded! ........doubly so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Skilful work there Crisp. Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitchentable Posted yesterday at 03:09 PM Share Posted yesterday at 03:09 PM Crisp I hope you are getting the point that everyone thinks your build is amazing. As you know I have been using your build history to help me on my 1/600 Ark Royal. So, I have a question on the scuttles. There are no 1/600 scuttles on the market (unless someone knows different) but I have bought a set of Eduard USN 1/700 scuttles. My question is: what is the size of the of the "glass" in your 1/350 model scuttles, or what are they at life size? I have done a couple of trial drill outs to 0.5mm which means 300mm full scale. They look a bit small though. Kitchentable 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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