Lydia Litvyak's Yak 1b White 23 camo pattern?

[Sturmovik]

Does anyone have the camouflage pattern for Lydia Litvyak's Yak 1b White 23? I've searched everywhere online and found several models, but I wouldn't like to copy another guy's colour scheme.

[Sturmovik]

Any kind of info will be greatly appreciated.

[Corsairfoxfouruncle]

Its possible @Learstang might have some info ? At the very least he may be able to point you in a direction ? 

[Junchan]

AeroMaster Decals 48-423 Yak-1b Fighters includes her white 23 and the Osprey Aircraft of the Aces 64 Yakovlev Aces of World War 2 features a color profile but there is no photo of her mount.

 

Jun in Tokyo

https://www.flickr.com/photos/horaburo/albums

[Troy Smith]

6 hours ago, Sturmovik said:

Any kind of info will be greatly appreciated.

http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/board/index.php?topic=2160.msg18516#msg18516

 

 

as you can see, no number.   Not sure if the right pic is Litvak

I have never seen documentation that Litvak flew white 23,  the plane usually credited to her is 'yellow' 44 , a plain Yak-1 (and I doubt it was yellow)

 

 

 

camo pattern

well from here http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/colors/1941-43/1941-43.html

 

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Yak-1 fighters factories introduced the standardized black/green camouflage even before June 1941.

 

a photos above shows early Yak-1s with the standard camo pattern.

The second photo show an early Yak-1 with the reversed camouflage: green and black bands were exchanged between them.

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The third photo shows a Yak-1b, recognizable for its bubble canopy, in 1943. Its camouflage looks to follow accurately the NKAP standard scheme.

 

 

 

this was from searching, Litvak's first unit, the 586 IAP

http://ava.org.ru/iap/586.htm

 

no shots of her, but some other female aviators, and some Yak shots 

 

 

for those curious. 

125th guards bomber air «Borisov» regiment (former 587th bomber aviation female regiment)

http://ava.org.ru/bap/125g.htm

this is the 'Night Witches' unit

http://ava.org.ru/bap/46g.htm

 

 

from here

http://ava.org.ru/iap.html

 

Eastern front: VVS history. Soviet fighter units and planes in 1941-1945

 

there are links at the top for more types, 

eg @Sturmovik

these are the ground attack units

http://ava.org.ru/shap.html

 

lots of photos, some English captions.  and you can always run through  translator.

 

what is fascinating is seeing photos I've seen before being assigned to units and pilots.

[Putty Animal]

The smooth gloss on those Yaks is quite interesting.  

[Ed Russell]

There is a relevant article in Aviation History  March 2002 by Vladimir Belyakov. He quotes  Katerina Polunina, former mechanic and (in 2002) archivist of the 586 Regiment. She references order 022 of the 586 IAP which appears to be a list of aircraft assignments.  Litviak's regular Yak 1 was there noted as 02 not 23. The 02 was painted in yellow (described as a creamy yellow colour) and there were no other personal markings on her aircraft . There is no reason to doubt it would have been painted in the standard scheme. This would appear to be more reliable evidence than a photo of her in front of 23 or 44. She apparently flew 44 when transferred to 296 IAP to bolster its numbers before Stalingrad. There is a picture extant of 44, albeit  in May 1943 after Litviak had returned to 586 IAP.

[Sturmovik]

Thank you guys for all the comments and articles, I will read all of them closely in the following days.

[Ed Russell]

I don't particularly recommend you copy another model but here is Yellow 02 on the model club's Aviatrix display at Model Expo 2012.  Cropped from a much bigger picture. Standard black/green/blue camouflage. Maybe the 02 should be a little smaller but there were no regulations I am aware of for Bort numbers.

 

 

@Sturmovik I can fish out the article if you PM me.

[Aardvark]

Almoust all Internet link about  Lidiya Litvyak in one Russian topic:

http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16930&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Some about Yak-1 in Lidiya Litvyak context:

 http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic_t_14205_start_700.html

(many broken photo pictures in topic about Yak-1 it's "Factory specification Yak-1", don't worry this picture live, just click on "broken pictures")

About Yak-1 Ekaterina Budanova:

http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic_t_53130.html

About the navigator of the regiment is Captain Kutsenko, who was shot down in front of Litvyak:

http://scalemodels.ru/articles/7363-ModelSvit-1-48-k-1b---tri-mogily-kapitana-kucenko.html

In this article you may see original remains of the aircraft with preserved camouflage and part of a red star insignia.

I see this remains of the aircraft (as and part of engine VK-105 ...on which stood a stamp VK-106!) and compared AMT-4 with my existing Hambrol stains.  The closest to AMT-4 really was FS 34151 ( I have his equivalent from GS for comparison)

 

And don't forget:

 

B.R.

Serge

[Dimmy]

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Edited September 28, 2019 by Dimmy