Mottlemaster Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 The ICM Dornier 217 N-1 arived today and as im in the finishing throws ofon my Aims Ju 388 conversion P1030159 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr I feel it safe to start another project . The ju388 was started in Jan 18 and haas been an on and off project . I have had the Revell 217E-5 kit and lone Star 217 N-2 conversion in the stash for a number of years and as the likely hood of ICM producing this mark in the near future it seems its now or never so going to go big and do both at once . P1030147 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr P1030148 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr P1030149 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr P1030150 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr P1030151 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr P1030152 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr P1030153 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr P1030154 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr P1030155 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr P1030156 - Copy by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr P1030156 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr P1030157 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr P1030158 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr And iv made a start P1030160 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr I may get some aftermarket bits for the ICM like belts and another owl Radar set but will be OOB in the main as the coversion project will take up lots of time . 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Brantley Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Good luck with this project! I've contemplated something similar. I have the B-25, B-26 and A-20 WWII twins all in 1/48. I've thought of building them all at once, in a sort of assembly line approach. Good start here!👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREG DESTEC Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Wow! 😲 Looks like a great project. I like the early German nightfighters, so will try and keep up with this one. All the best Greg 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlemaster Posted June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted June 20, 2019 On 15/06/2019 at 00:37, Gary Brantley said: I've thought of building them all at once, in a sort of assembly line approach. Good start here!👍 Thanks Gary . This is my intention .half as much paint mixing and wastage ....i hope . On 15/06/2019 at 09:24, GREG DESTEC said: Looks like a great project. I like the early German nightfighters, so will try and keep up with this one. Thanks Greg . Yep theres something about them and the night airr war . Not Dornier related but the Aims Ju388 has been completed and taken to display cabinet so work bench isnow empty ......YIPPPPEee. P1030166 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr P1030167 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr P1030168 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr P1030169 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr Now at long last iv got a Ju388 .not perfect as some decal silvering but well up to my satisfaction . I bet ICM bring one out next month ! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlemaster Posted June 22, 2019 Author Share Posted June 22, 2019 Opening the bag of Lone Star resin parts i have had a nasty suprise ,some of the resin has a bad case of air bubble pox P1030164 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr P1030162 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr I have contacted Mike at L/S but as yey had no reply ,however if i have to rectify this nose i have two ideas 1. remove existing detail and replace with new out of plastic card and brass 2. repare with super glue/talk Thinking about it now it makes sense to try for a repare and if that doesnt work go for new scratch built detaile . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Very, very nice 388! Always thought it was a handsome beast, and I really like the scheme you used. Well done, sir! Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattlow Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 I honestly think remove and re-build is going to be the most satisfying option... Brass tubing will be sharper and stronger.. Nice 388 by the way. This is based on a Dragon Ju 88 (is there a WiP)? Wonder if it'd fit an ICM kit? Matt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlemaster Posted June 24, 2019 Author Share Posted June 24, 2019 Thanks Mat I honestly think remove and re-build is going to be the most satisfying option... Brass tubing will be sharper and stronger.. Yep ,i think you are right .I have been looking at refrences and the use of some brass tube will be far superior . Have got the icm nose to help as well . Im going to aim for something like this 155fb84034b44c109917198dfb2b56d0 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr I have done a dryrun on the main parts to see how the fit is . There are plenty of opertunities to get this wrong as the plastic guides in the fuselage are very sloppy and it is easy to glue something in the wrong position ,however ,get them in the correct position and it seems to be a dam good fit . From a comparison with the revell kit detail is rather soft and there are some weird shaped radio equipment on the side walls . P1030170 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr P1030171 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr P1030172 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr Going to take a further look at the L/S nose and then sand it smooth . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattlow Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Looks good. So weaker detail on the ICM parts...? Interesting, as the Mig 25 has very sharp details for the most part.. Matt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlemaster Posted June 30, 2019 Author Share Posted June 30, 2019 I have removed the deformed resin FuG 202 radar mounting points and replaced with some brass tube with an i.d of 1.00 so the owl resin will slot inside but with a little slop so they can be alined . The 20mm gun ports have been made from some 2.00 mm tube . P1030175 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr I have left the spent ammo case shutes as i will make new ones after the nose is in position as this area is likely to have lots of surgery at a later date . now another uggly resin pox P1030174 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr This area has equipment relating to the gun controlles . my first thoughts wre to leave as is as will probably not be seen ,however i am now thinking that i will remove it all and start from scratch . here is a comparison with the ICM part wich shows how soft the detail is . P1030173 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Law Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 I'm waiting for my Do 217N to arrive. Should be in a few days. I think it will be best for me to wait for an Eduard set to show up. One thing I have noticed is the fuselage parts in the ICM kit is made in such a way that we might finally see a Do 217K or M. I think they would be wise to do a K before an E as there's never been one. By the way, well done on getting the Ju 388 done. Looks real nice. I will be watching your build. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattlow Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Good work on the nose restoration... that'll look good and be much stronger than the original. I always avoided the Lone Star conversion (I have a Koster one somewhere) as the quality was often totally abysmal.. your photos do little to revive LS's reputation.. It looks like it's been cast in cheese that's started to melt.... Matt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlemaster Posted June 30, 2019 Author Share Posted June 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Mattlow said: It looks like it's been cast in cheese that's started to melt Or an Aero bar .Some parts are more bubble than resin . Matt i see you live in Devon ,im near Cullompton . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlemaster Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 I have removed all the detail from the L/S nose ,attached a new plastic card bulkhead , made some new detail from plastic card ,brass tube and left ocer parts from my Ju388 conversion . P1030178 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr P1030180 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr With the nose rectified i feel i can move on with both 217's together. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlemaster Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 Just noticed iv added one to many gas bottles used to cock the guns . thats going to stay :} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Law Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 My ICM kit turned up today. I'm not disappointed with the cockpit detail. I find it sharp enough for me. One thing I did notice is there appears to be a bomb bay which is a good sign for future versions. Have you seen any masks around yet? I don't think Eduard has made any yet. Also the Owl aerials are hard to find now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Law Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 How is this one going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlemaster Posted August 5, 2019 Author Share Posted August 5, 2019 On 24/07/2019 at 09:58, Greg Law said: How is this one going? Well there has been a bit of a hold on this due to holidays etc getting in the way ,however here are some progres pics . Cockpits have almost been completed and the L/Star resin glued into place on the Revell kit . Top ICM bottom Revell P1030198 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr The ICM kit comes with no engine throttle controles Top Revell P1030199 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr The fold up seat on the revell needs to be removed P1030200 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr The Revell kit has some excellent detail on the radio equipment but as i mentiond earlier the ICM detail is rather soft ,almost as if they are expecting you to use an eduard etch set . P1030201 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr Sods lore ..Aims are bringing out a resin conversion for the ICM kit To quote Johns post Hi everyone, a first look at the new AIMS 1/48 Do 217 N-2/R22 conversion for the excellent ICM Do 217 N-1 kit. It is not ready for sale yet as I wanted the set to include some additional photo etch parts like the cabin door - these will be with me soon. Total for the conversion is £22.50 plus shipping and if you are interested please email me at [email protected] Many thanks, John I doubt any more of these Lone Star conversions will ever be completed but as iv got this far im going to get it finished . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Law Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Thanks for the heads up on the Aim's conversion. I will Email him. I have got quite a lot of parts from him. Your progress is looking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Those are big beasts! Great megaprojects you have here! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28ZComeback Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Alistar not to hijack the thread but could you post more photos of the beautiful Ju-388 AIMS conversion? If you don’t mind me asking, which donor kit did you use? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Law Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Alistair Anymore progress with this one. As you might of seen I got the Do 215E-4 finished. At the moment I'm working on the He 111 and a Ju 188A1 for the Journeys end GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannie Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 (edited) Hi Mottlemaster I just so happen to be working on the exact same Revell Do217 + Lone Star conversion -> Dornier 217N-2. You probably have noticed by now (unless your example is in much better shape than mine) that the rear cockpit fairing is pretty much useless. Seems to me the best way to go about fixing it is to just use the kit canopy and NOT cut off the rear portion - rather figure out a way to turn the round turret opening into a square hole, IOW use the complete canopy. Interestingly the nose replacement casting on my conversion kit is in much better shape (minimal bubbles) - if Lone Star was a mainstream company I would have said perhaps yours was made on a Friday afternoon, but like most garage Industry things they were likely all done on a Sunday afternoon. Perhaps some beer got into the resin mix in your case? -- Jannie Edited May 31, 2020 by jannie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amos brierley Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Some nice modelling projects there. ICM + AIMS to the rescue, I have all of the above including that dodgey Lone Star dubiously resin set. Looking forward to seeing further work and the journey you take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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