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GazB

Desert Churchill

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So I'm pondering the possibility of getting a Churchill kit like Tamiya's 1/35. However I'm interested in trying something other than just a bog standard dark green vehicle. 

 

My specific question is: did Churchill's ever wear Caunter scheme? I've had a look around, but so far I only spotted Stuart's and Matildas painted in it while the Churchill seemed to get a single colour or had a kind of sand/brown combo (the one where it looks black in photographs).

 

Also kinda hoping the version depicted by Tamiya would be suitable for the African campaign period.

 

Thanks in advance.

Gaz

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Aye up Gaz.

 

The Tamiya Churchill is a Mk VII and they were produced too late to see action in North Africa. You would need the AFV Club Mk III for that one. MkI and MkII were also used in Tunisia but only options for them are expensive resin kits. As far as i know the Caunter scheme was long gone by the time of the Churchies arriving in theatre. 

 

Regards

 

Steve

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6 hours ago, fatfingers said:

Aye up Gaz.

 

The Tamiya Churchill is a Mk VII and they were produced too late to see action in North Africa. You would need the AFV Club Mk III for that one. MkI and MkII were also used in Tunisia but only options for them are expensive resin kits. As far as i know the Caunter scheme was long gone by the time of the Churchies arriving in theatre. 

 

Regards

 

Steve

Ah nuts, hehe.

 

Thanks for the info, Steve :)

 

Gaz

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As Steve mentions, the Caunter scheme ended around October 1941, while the first Churchills (6 vehicles) arrived in the desert and participated at the second battle El Alamein  in late 1942.  Starmer describes the two tone scheme as likely being Light Stone No.61 over Khaki Green No. 3:

 

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regards,

Jack

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On 6/12/2019 at 2:56 PM, JackG said:

As Steve mentions, the Caunter scheme ended around October 1941, while the first Churchills (6 vehicles) arrived in the desert and participated at the second battle El Alamein  in late 1942.  Starmer describes the two tone scheme as likely being Light Stone No.61 over Khaki Green No. 3:

 

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regards,

Jack

Thanks for the pointers, Jack :)

 

Gaz

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On 12/06/2019 at 05:07, GazB said:

had a kind of sand/brown combo (the one where it looks black in photographs).

These were the Kingforce Churchill Mk.III's

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The Kingforce Churchills.  6 were sent from UK pre-painted in Light Stone 61.  The pattern was applied at base workshops  and modified from that for the Crusader tank since their configuration is broadly similar at a distance. 

The dark colour on these has been described as earth brown, red-brown and brick red, not green or black as artworks have it.   

dark brown probably close to SCC1A

 

from an email asking about this from Mike Starmer. 

there are descriptions and mixes here

http://www.mafva.net/other pages/Starmer camo.htm

 

I can find you Tamiya and Vallejo mixes as well if that helps.

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