Adam Poultney Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 What kits in 1/72 are the best of second world war German jet aircraft? I have Airfix's 262, but I'm after mainly a He162, Me163, Ho229 (I know of the Revell kit, but is there anything better?) and a He280. Informationabout other kits like Ar234s would be useful Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 RS Models make some German jets. I can't comment on the quality, never having built any of their kits. https://www.super-hobby.com/products/He-280-with-HeS.html https://www.super-hobby.com/products/Henschel-Hs-132-A.html https://www.super-hobby.com/products/He-280-with-Jumo-004.html https://www.super-hobby.com/products/Blohm-Voss-Ae-607-Nightfighter.html Dragon make a few, too. https://www.super-hobby.com/products/Heinkel-He162A-2-Volksjager.html https://www.super-hobby.com/products/Mistel-5-He162A-2-z-Arado-E-377a.html https://www.super-hobby.com/products/German-Arado-Ar234B-Nachtigall.html https://www.super-hobby.com/products/Arado-Ar234P-1.html https://www.super-hobby.com/products/Arado-Ar234-B-2-B-2b-Blitz.html https://www.super-hobby.com/products/ARADO-Ar234C-3-LIGHTNING.html https://www.super-hobby.com/products/Messerschmitt-Me-P.1101-Nachtj-ger.html https://www.super-hobby.com/products/Ar234C-4-w-V-1-Huckepack.html https://www.super-hobby.com/products/Messerschmitt-Me1101.html https://www.super-hobby.com/products/AR234C-w-ARE381-Julia.html And Revell. https://www.super-hobby.com/products/Arado-Ar555.html https://www.super-hobby.com/products/Focke-Wulf-TL-jager-Flitzer.html https://www.super-hobby.com/products/Blohm-and-Voss-BV-P-194.html https://www.super-hobby.com/products/German-IIWW-experimental-jet-plane-Messerschmitt-Me-P.1099B-Heavy-Fighter.html https://www.super-hobby.com/products/German-IIWW-experimental-jet-plane-Messerschmitt-Me-P.1099B-Heavy-Fighter.html Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre B Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 I like the Academy Me 163. Concerning the Arado Ar 234 most people today probably mention the Dragon kit. But the old Frog kit isn't bad and have some nice options... Cheers / André Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 I had the Revell Horten, it was very nice. Dragon kits look very good in the box but have a reputation of being difficult to assemble. This may be overstated. You will certainly find the Frog Arado crude and clumsy in comparison. Mine remains unfinished (but that's not unique in itself). I've made several RS kits and would recommend them. I think Huma made a respectable He280 but that might be difficult to find. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 My votes: He 162: Dragon Me 163: Academy Ho 229: Revell Ar 234: Dragon He 280: no knowledge. Not sure why you'd want a better kit of the Horten than Revell's: it's a comparatively recent kit and very nicely detailed. I have a part-built Dragon Ar 234: no building problems beyond the ordinary and nicely detailed. My He 162 is still in the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warhawk Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Revell's Ho229 is nicely detailed and builds into a great kit (I have no comment on accuracy though, since I don't have it in stash) But if You want a "Turbo-Mega-Kit-3000" of the same aircraft, You could wait a bit for this bad boy: https://www.scalemates.com/kits/zoukei-mura-horten-ho-229--1079738# https://www.72news.eu/2017/11/zoukei-mura-horten-ho229.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Poultney Posted June 6, 2019 Author Share Posted June 6, 2019 3 hours ago, warhawk said: Revell's Ho229 is nicely detailed and builds into a great kit (I have no comment on accuracy though, since I don't have it in stash) But if You want a "Turbo-Mega-Kit-3000" of the same aircraft, You could wait a bit for this bad boy: https://www.scalemates.com/kits/zoukei-mura-horten-ho-229--1079738# https://www.72news.eu/2017/11/zoukei-mura-horten-ho229.html Wow... Depending on price I night go for that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stromness Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 RS Models has a He-280 which is more recent and probably a little more advanced than the quite decent HUMA kit. There are a number of reviews, even vidoes, on the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Stromness said: RS Models has a He-280 which is more recent and probably a little more advanced than the quite decent HUMA kit. There are a number of reviews, even vidoes, on the net. As I mentioned in my post above. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 And there are many models of airplanes which never existed, so called Luftwaffe '46... Cheers J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDriskill Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Not an area i have a ton of experience with, but for whatever my opinions are worth: The Academy Me 163 is one of the very best 1/72 kits that company ever made. Includes the little transport tractor, and gives you the option for the 163S 2-seat trainer, too. Absolutely can’t go wrong with that one. The Revell Ho 229 is superb, though as noted this one is in the Zoukei “to-do” pile if you want to wait a year. Or four, LOL. The Dragon He 162 is good but you will have to work through some fit issues. The wing roots are particularly bad, it’s as if a magic force field holds them away from the fuselage, in spite of lacking any obvious points of contact. For what it’s worth, the Hobby Boss “Quick Build” He 162 and Me 163 are quite acceptable for that type of kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 There's also this one, though I don't know if it's available anymore. Oops! I forgot to put the tailplanes into the picture properly. It's sitting on the instruction sheet. Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tempestfan Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 (edited) The PM moulds are said to have been lost when their founder died and his family didn’t want to sell them, though I don’t know if anyone would actually have wanted to buy - would be a bit surprising considering their quality. If you want to go down the Luftwaffe 46 route, Huma was a major player in that field but again those moulds appear to have been lost. Would the venerable Revell ex Frog He 162 be a contender? Old, but should be reasonably easy to obtain. Edited June 13, 2019 by tempestfan Should've added which type I was referring to 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Poultney Posted June 10, 2019 Author Share Posted June 10, 2019 Molds can be remade from an original kit, albeit at a lower quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Dragons He 162 was also available in a spiffy Mistel combo: https://www.scalemates.com/kits/dragon-5002-mistel-5-he162a-2-w-arado-e-377a--108489 I have the RoG rebox in the stash: https://www.scalemates.com/kits/revell-04145-mistel-5--135390 I''ll use a RoG Me 262 or Fw 190 for the Mistel, the He 162 will end up on her own wheels. Cheers, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPL Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Hannants lists three version of the He-280 (1:72) by RS Models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre B Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 (edited) On 6/10/2019 at 9:25 AM, tempestfan said: The PM moulds are said to have been lost when their founder died and his family didn’t want to sell them, though I don’t know if anyone would actually have wanted to buy - would be a bit surprising considering their quality. If you want to go down the Luftwaffe 46 route, Huma was a major player in that field but again those moulds appear to have been lost. Would the venerable Revell ex Frog be a contender? Old, but should be reasonably easy to obtain. Sad... I actually has the PM Ta-183. It's simple but not bad. I've got it when the Tamiya 1/48 kit came. It's almost done, some painting left to do. I couldn't decide on what camouflage scheme to paint. Funny is that it shares tail with the little Messerschmitt P.1101 from Dragon... Cheers / André Edited June 12, 2019 by Andre B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 23 hours ago, Andre B said: Funny is that it shares tail with the little Messerschmitt P.1101 from Dragon... What to say about the accuracy (and painting schemes) if the airplane never was build? Regards J-W 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre B Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 hour ago, JWM said: What to say about the accuracy (and painting schemes) if the airplane never was build? Regards J-W As Tamiya decided to make it in 1/48 it for sure had something. In 1/72 it is an nice little kit and it's sad that Tamiya didn't make one in 1/72... Cheers / André Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 There are rumours or city legend that prototype of Ta 183 was completed in USSR, but it is not confirmed... Cheers J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tempestfan Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 ...which possibly explains the flurry of early 50s kits of MiG's and Yak's bearing a strong resemblance to the 183. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPL Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 2 hours ago, JWM said: What to say about the accuracy (and painting schemes) if the airplane never was build? Regards J-W Nothing, and when we see at the market, which producer will regret that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPL Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) 49 minutes ago, JWM said: There are rumours or city legend that prototype of Ta 183 was completed in USSR, but it is not confirmed... Cheers J-W Wasn't it so that agents from the Allies including the Russians were hunting down German specialist in the months following the surrender? Kurt Tank escaped the Russians, the Americans got von Braun. It is a fascinating subject. There must be studies devoted to this subject. Addendum: Found this title: Operation Lusty: The Race for Hitler's Secret Technology by Graham M. Simons | 30 May 2016. Amazon lists three more books about the subject. And the search go on: Operation Paperclips... The Soviet equivalent was Operation Osoaviakhim Quite easy to find information on the net. Edited June 13, 2019 by NPL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre B Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Nonono... We got the Ta 183 and built the SAAB J-29... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 What is a fact: Kurt Tank materialized his ideas of jet fighter (similar in some aspects to Ta 183) in Argentine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FMA_IAe_33_Pulqui_II Regards J-W 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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