bar side Posted June 10, 2019 Author Share Posted June 10, 2019 24 minutes ago, Nikolay Polyakov said: I think it’s a good idea, but if you’re looking at the photos, it’s a bit less than a semicircle. Just a bit. It’s an odd place here. Must be if I’m normal yes, see what you mean about the not quite semi circular Question is if I cut the lid down will it then be too small. Plus the cone inside needs to be cut down too. It seems that the intakes come out almost in line with the body edge. And sit on a plate against the fuselage side. I am tempted to try to slightly squash the lid to see how it behaves 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolay Polyakov Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 44 minutes ago, bar side said: It’s an odd place here. Exactly. 44 minutes ago, bar side said: Question is if I cut the lid down will it then be too small. Just cut so small - a bit less than we’re talking about... 47 minutes ago, bar side said: I am tempted to try to slightly squash the lid to see how it behaves Ah, that’s the best idea! 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwellphillips Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 On 08/06/2019 at 19:06, bar side said: I am off to Duxford in a few weeks time so looking forward to that Went to Duxford a few weeks back, it's great seeing them up close, but I find it hard to take photos cause everything is so wedged in 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 Couple of bits today. The wings are together & they have a nice curve under the leading edge. Seems to have survived ok. Next to the wings are the jet exhausts from the kit. Have seen better! Checking out the look of the front wheel. The leg is going to get re-engineered but thought I would like to see what it looks like So the new jet pipes won’t sit without some supports. But in there they give the body some structure just needed some bulkheads to keep it all in place. Cardboard ones for now to make up a template. One either end of the bomb bay which will be open. Lots to do - change of curve in the jet pipes around the wheel wells. Intakes need loads etc etc The body now fits quite neatly together with that internal structure 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share Posted June 12, 2019 New bulkheads made wit( plasticard and the tubes are sitting a bit better. That’s the top half with the tubes in & the bottom half next to it with the bomb bay doors marked out And with the bomb bay doors cut out So the plan is to detail up the inside of the bomb bay and the small wheel wells, not the full front section which will stay closed The reference thread posted by Nikolay gives some nice shots of resin parts to go in there I was going to do the reduced width or sinuous section of the jet pipes you can see on the left. However these are only seen in the front section of the wheel well that would hold the main wheels in flight. As this section is staying closed I am going to leave it alone. So you won’t see the bit open below, only the smaller bit to the right. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsaircorp Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Great job on this one BS !! Congratulations !! I always loved the TSR 1 !! So, I'll stayed a bit and looking over your shoulder !! Sincerely. CC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share Posted June 12, 2019 Cheers CC. Been looking at picks for the bomb bay. Even some of the resin aftermarket parts include the test equipment in the bay, and don’t leave it clear. So this is how it should look This is XR222 at Duxford. More orange than I thought 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolay Polyakov Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 23 hours ago, bar side said: Next to the wings are the jet exhausts from the kit. Have seen better! Looks like an old odd buckets - they’re not suitable for the flight! 3 hours ago, bar side said: So the plan is to detail up the inside of the bomb bay and the small wheel wells, not the full front section which will stay closed Excellent progress on a fuselage parts, @bar side! 3 hours ago, bar side said: The reference thread posted by Nikolay gives some nice shots of resin parts to go in there It’s a kit detail - not so bad, isn’t it? Keep up the good work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 If that is kit detail then I should have saved up for the Airfix kit @Nikolay Polyakov Started off today reenforcing the bomb bay opening - putting in some joining strips down the side. The main wheels are sat behind. Needs some work but I have seen worse I looked at the bits so far & decided they have something of a TSR2 scrap yard look So the next step is to put in a strip along the jet pipes between the bulkheads. This kind of marks out the edges of the bomb bay and divides off the side wheel wells. Then a flat plate between the pipes to make the bed. All coming along Need to get the wheel wells sorted & build in a locating point for the main undercarriage legs, at an angle or with the legs suitable bent to show that they are not straight. Then all of that bomb bat detail before the body can get closed up. Then those pesky intakes 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolay Polyakov Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 I like your engineering here, I think it would be very solid model in the end! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 31 minutes ago, Nikolay Polyakov said: I like your engineering here, I think it would be very solid model in the end! Think it needs it - not a lot of strength in the vacform plastic. Shame most of it won’t be seen in the end 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted June 14, 2019 Author Share Posted June 14, 2019 I got the masking tape & blu tac out to see how big bird will look By comparison with a little Turkish trainer Now if a kit had tail parts that fitted like this.... well the one on the left has been done, the right is waiting. Well it has been done since this pick was taken This is the kit internal bulkheads for the wheel wells. Some interesting detail but more than a bit fictitious And above it is the internal structure I am building. The wheel well back bulkhead is done, as is the floor And roughly where the wheels fit. Need a bit of cutting down Has been quite a productive week & things keep on moving forward 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 I'm loving this build! Martian 👽 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 Just to show that the wings & tail haven’t been neglected, here are the bits The flaps are too long so the end needs to com off. At the moment they would hit the body. The tipped down tips are now being attached. I have put in some tubing to hold the main undercarriage uprights. So I started looking at the main kit parts. This is how they look Where to begin? Chunky plastic sticks with the legs modelled fully extended. And the front one has a second triangular bit on it that doesn’t exist. Also look closely at the front view of the front leg. The pins to attach the wheels aren’t even level. Plus the rear legs need to be bent to show the angle of the real ones. So I am wondering if i should remake the legs with tube & a metal or evergreen rod up the middle. And the real thing 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 The kit undercarriage parts are so bad that I would be inclined to take a look at the Scale Aircraft Conversions set for the Airfix kit. Martian 👽 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 18 minutes ago, Martian Hale said: The kit undercarriage parts are so bad that I would be inclined to take a look at the Scale Aircraft Conversions set for the Airfix kit. Martian 👽 That’s a new supplier to me. US based? Any idea if they have a UK distributor as Hannant don’t stock them. Most likely to stick with scratch building something as that is the way this build has been going. It’s nice looking things up to see what they should look like rather than assuming the kit maker got it right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 29 minutes ago, bar side said: That’s a new supplier to me. US based? Any idea if they have a UK distributor as Hannant don’t stock them. Au contraire Blackadder! https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/SAC48026 Martian 👽 PS; They also have a good selection of TSR2 wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomohawk Kid Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) I remember reading a review of the Contrail 1/72 TSR-2 in Scale Models circa '76 and sent off for it immediately for it. I was sorely disappointed in its shape and buildability when it eventually arrived. Everyone who has dissed the Airfix kit should build the Contrail kit. Kudos to the builder of the quarter scale version on this thread, and keep going is my motto. Tommo. Edited June 15, 2019 by The Tomohawk Kid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorenSharp Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 By jove, I do believe he's got it. This build is looking great! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorenSharp Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 I agree Tomahawk KId, the airfix kit was a pure pain in the backside to build. After seeing the way this build is turning out, I may have to go back and fix it. Gave me some good ideas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 41 minutes ago, Martian Hale said: Au contraire Blackadder! https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/SAC48026 Martian 👽 PS; They also have a good selection of TSR2 wheels. How did I miss that? Very nice. Cost me more than the kit did though! Still tempted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 Cheers @The Tomohawk Kid By all accounts a lot of people binned the Contrails kits, both 1/72 & 1/48 which probably explains how I got this one cheap. Got to say I enjoying the build & all its challenges. Thanks @LorenSharp slightly dreading the intakes but otherwise it’s going ok. And I am getting quite a bit of time on it at the moment which is good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 1 minute ago, bar side said: How did I miss that? Very nice. Cost me more than the kit did though! Still tempted I virtually rebuilt the entire u/c on the Airfix kit and nearly lost my marbles in the process, I guess comes down to the value you put on your sanity. Martian 👽 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, bar side said: By all accounts a lot of people binned the Contrails kits, both 1/72 & 1/48 which probably explains how I got this one cheap. Perversely enough this kit is one I have been looking out for for some time now. Martian 👽 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Martian Hale said: I virtually rebuilt the entire u/c on the Airfix kit and nearly lost my marbles in the process, I guess comes down to the value you put on your sanity. Martian 👽 Ah, but you are assuming my sanity is still intact. Sometimes starting things again is easier than trying to rebuild or improve what you have 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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