perdu Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 42 minutes ago, limeypilot said: Lovely! I guess there's a certain clique of guys on here that just love painting loads of little red seats! Ian Don't, I say don't you believe it... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrislowe Posted September 1, 2019 Author Share Posted September 1, 2019 Hello you lot. Just a quick update today. First job was to make a shelf in the rather empty space where the heater is, and then create some kind of comms kit to sit on it. I used some old kit parts and decals for the comms kit. Which meant that everything I had on the list for the interior was done... And I could put the roof on... Happy days! In secret, I've added the glazing to the outer halves, filled holes that need filling, drilled holes that need drilling and painted sections of the inner surface that might be visible later. Hopefully another update soon! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 That looks very fine indeed from here. Almost a shame to slap a lid on it, but "we all know it's there"! Ian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrislowe Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 Oh! What's happened here? Finally something that's starting to look like a Chinook! After lots of trial fitting, I glued the right side on first. It wasn't a great fit along the top, so doing it and letting it cure allowed me to tape it in place in a way that I couldn't have done, if I'd done both sides together. Left it taped up for 24 hours and then tonight fitted the left side. So far the joins are reasonable. Doesn't look like too much correction is necessary, although I haven't fitted the underside yet so there's still time for heartache. I was worried when i've read other people's experience of Italeri kits, but so far it fits in the places that matter. Laters gators 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 I have 'em crossed for you Chris, so far very good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrislowe Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) On 9/2/2019 at 8:27 PM, chrislowe said: it fits in the places that matter. Does it 'eck! On 9/2/2019 at 9:47 PM, perdu said: I have 'em crossed for you Chris Even your crossed digits couldn't save me from the inevitable, Bill. I can't upload pictures to Flikr at the moment, but believe me the gaps between the sides and the underside are large enough to fall through, and the engine nacelles, don't even really belong, let alone fit in. I spoke too soon and the Italeri was ready to prove me wrong. While I gather myself for dealing with the gaps, I'm cutting away all the bits and bobs that my RAF subject doesn't need, or that Eduard says I need to remove. My favourite bit so far is the 4 lumps toward the rear of the left hand side. The instructions say they should be removed, but not only do 3 of em intersect with panel lines that need scribing, when you remove the lumps, there's a hole straight through to the other side! Surprise! One false move could bring disaster.... Edited September 3, 2019 by chrislowe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrislowe Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 Oh the mirth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Tube glue, tube glue and Berna(?) clamps And tube glue My Matchbox Wokka now has zero underside detail but will be getting reinstated detail soon(ish) for exactly the same reason as yours I may use this very useful underside view of yours to make the now missing detail for mine Remember Berna clamps And thick tube glue If you use enough you'll put enough fileable material to avoid excess fillering I feel your pain And the humour 😠 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrislowe Posted September 6, 2019 Author Share Posted September 6, 2019 On to the pe for the engine cowls. Having been told by both Andy and Bill that these should be recessed, I set about it with the micro chisel. It was alarmingly easy to remove plastic, and I used the moulded grilles for positioning, which, now I look at reference photos might've been a mistake. Balanced in place Glued And then these two on the underside I was worried that if I hacked the hole through it'd just look like an empty cowling behind the grille, so I cut enough away to recess the pe, and then painted a black background. Not sure how it'll look, so we'll see. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 IF the grilles end up in the wrong place its acos of the kit designer being drunk or daft, not your fault Looks good with them on it, racing ahead again now Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrislowe Posted September 12, 2019 Author Share Posted September 12, 2019 On 9/9/2019 at 9:57 AM, perdu said: Looks good with them on it, racing ahead again now Chris Thanks Bill. I started playing about with this because the instructions were a little confusing Basically cut everything original away, throw most of our away and then stick it back together. This engine cowl was finished until I saw the picture and realised that it needs more work. And then the glass went on I left the nose off, for later thinking that if I have to fill some gaps at the front of the floor, I might be able to use that hole to paint any filler that's visible on the inside. And then... Well as the Irish would say, I lost the run of m'self. I got excited because with a bit of trimming and a lot of test fitting and even more sanding, I could get the floor to fit (ish) and not only fit, but all the panel lines line up... You can see there's still a big 'ole at the front that needs filling but this is so much better than it threatened to be, the first time I offered it up. You can also see that I made the ramp and remembered to put it in the right place. So what's wrong, you might wonder? What disaster did I stumble into in my giddy rush? I forgot it wasn't painted! The only thing that might save my bacon is that most of it is covered by a sheet of PE, so I can paint that and keep everything crossed in the hope it's a good fit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Never mind, the whole thing looks far better than the 72th scale ones 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrislowe Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 Well, as much as the underside looked like a good fit, with my basic skills it's taken me what feels like a life-time of sanding, filling and sanding again to get something close to tidy. When is painted I'll probably wish I'd spent more time on it, but I'm tired of it now so I'm going to tidy up the join around the canopy and then start sticking on all the bits and bobs. To that end, I've added the electrical and hydraulic connectors for the winch. They look better irl than in the pictures where they all look a bit squiffy. Thanks for coming along. Hopefully the pace will pick up a little, now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Aha, the hole in the bottom... (notes to self...) I like the winch connectors, wish I had room on the side of mine! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrislowe Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 So, having decided that I'm not doing anything more on the underside or the canopy, I'm fitting the pe mesh to the other engine nacelle. I'm somewhat better now with the micro chisel so this is a better job than the first one. Top... Lower More later. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrislowe Posted September 24, 2019 Author Share Posted September 24, 2019 The third and final piece of PE. The poor fit that I mentioned in a previous post was mostly due to excess plastic on the underside. Once I'd removed it all, the fit was not as bad as I feared. It still needs some tidying up, but we now have engines! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 You definitely are getting better, that's a big difference from left to right. Practice equals improvement. Great job! Ian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrislowe Posted September 25, 2019 Author Share Posted September 25, 2019 Quick update. This is definitely more fun than sanding and filling the underside! Still slow progress though Especially when I think of all the other bits that need to go on, and for the most part should probably be flush. Trudginly, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Always fun It might feel soul destroying but it awfully nice to finish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrislowe Posted September 28, 2019 Author Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) This was a duplicate of a post up there ^^^. I don't know how it happened but it's gone now. Edited September 29, 2019 by chrislowe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrislowe Posted September 28, 2019 Author Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) A bit more progress. I was concerned about my ability to make this PE look convincing. So far, I'm surprised that they seem to be square and well spaced, hopefully they'll still look ok when there's paint. The next bit I was worried about was the PE grille forward of the port door. I realised that my hydraulic point weren't right either, so they were chiseled off and replaced. To finish the morning, I started on some of the other gubbins down that port side. Resin gubbins are from the cmk set. Precious gubbinses Edited September 28, 2019 by chrislowe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrislowe Posted September 29, 2019 Author Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) The starboard side has these 'sockets' for the antennas. Every version in the box has something that goes along here. The Japanese version uses every one of them. For the British and US versions some have to be removed as mentioned occasionally in the instructions... What the instructions don't mention though is that they're both the wrong shape and in the wrong place for the UK version. Here's the UK antenna on the sprue (at the top) You can see that the spacing isn't anything like the regular spaces of the sockets, and even if it was, the square outline of the sockets is the wrong shape. The upshot of all that is that my next job is removing every single one of the sockets, and of course each one of them is on a panel line. New no.11 blade at the ready! Edited September 29, 2019 by chrislowe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Aren't the ones on the kit the original mast and wire antenna fit? The 7 Sqn bird I am making has posts for two rows of them, not just the single row the kit gives us I think the post bases should be round not square but I cannot check it out because I'm away from my PC To return to your problem I would suggest whipping all of them off 😦 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrislowe Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 On 9/29/2019 at 11:41 AM, perdu said: whipping all of them off 😦 Well, I'm not great at scribing panel lines, but this model is giving me plenty of chance to practice. I need to spray a coat of primer to check that it's all ok, but it's better than it was... I have a question for the BM collective... In this picture from the walk around section, you can clearly see a 'ole in the side of the pylon (?), under the rotor head It looks like there's a number of fixings around the hole, but I can't see if it's mesh, or just an opening. Does anyone know? Unsurprisingly the Italeri version shows nothing of the sort. Now I look at that picture it's also very clear that the front of the concave curve around the top of the pylon blends in as it curves around to the front. Unlike this one where it continues across the front to the other side. Looks like more filler in my future... The more I look at it, the further away from a Chinook it looks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beefy Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 This might help, it is a mesh cover 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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