Doccur Posted May 28, 2019 Posted May 28, 2019 (edited) Good morning, Now onto the second of the 3 kits I will be attempting. This is the venerable Frog Fairey Delta (In a Novo Boxing). I believe this is the only conventional kit of this aircraft, however it does come with a rather unconventional feature; a moveable 'Droop-Snoot'. (The aircraft had a droopable snoto and cockpit, due to the high angle of attack the aircraft needed to maintain during take off and landing). Which leads me to the history of the aircraft. This was a transonic delta winged (Clue is in the name) research aircraft, which as designed to investigate the delta wing configuration at (you guessed it) transonic speeds. Pete Twiss on the first few flights however, noticed that this aircraft had capabilities much beyond this, and thus a world absolute air speed record was attempted. This was succefssfully completed in 1957, beating the previous holder, an F-100 , by some 300 MPH. So, as you can already understand, a very significant aircraft. It is even more significant when you consider Dassault got inspiration from the Fairey delta 2 for it's Mirage III fighter, see below. Thanks to @jbot1971, I will be modelling the aircraft, after it had completed it's record breaking flight, in a gaudy mauve colour. JBot, has kindly provided me with some decals, despite his retirement... Many thanks Jim! The kti itself, was moulded sometime in the lte 70s early 80s and is surpsirisngly well moulded! very little flash, as opposed to some other stuff I have built from Novo (cough... Gloster Javelin...), no doubt a lot of filler and sandpaper will be required, but hopefully I can produce something highly polished and neat. Thanks also to @PeterB for his help woth researching this. Cheers, Ash Edited July 5, 2019 by Doccur 14
Jinxman Posted May 28, 2019 Posted May 28, 2019 A beautiful aeroplane for sure. Didn't Fairey have to test it in France as there was little interest in the UK, thus stirring Dassault's creative juices? Or am I making that up? Anyways, looking forward to seeing this one come together. cheers 1
Doccur Posted May 28, 2019 Author Posted May 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jinxman said: A beautiful aeroplane for sure. Didn't Fairey have to test it in France as there was little interest in the UK, thus stirring Dassault's creative juices? Or am I making that up? Anyways, looking forward to seeing this one come together. cheers Yes I believe so! Fairey then had to cease and desist in France due to the insurance payments being excessive. Thanks, I shall do my best. 1 1
stevej60 Posted May 28, 2019 Posted May 28, 2019 Love this one Ash,back in the eightie's there was a small toy/model shop opened near work which oddly never sold mainstream stuff but load's of Novo and other Eastern European Kit's this was one I bought,great looking aircraft! 1
Doccur Posted May 28, 2019 Author Posted May 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, stevej60 said: Love this one Ash,back in the eightie's there was a small toy/model shop opened near work which oddly never sold mainstream stuff but load's of Novo and other Eastern European Kit's this was one I bought,great looking aircraft! It is fantastic, it really was the golden era of aviation back then! I have no idea when this was sold but it was stickered up for 39p! Edited May 28, 2019 by Doccur 1
PeterB Posted May 28, 2019 Posted May 28, 2019 Hi Ash, Looking forward to this one. I seem to recall that Frog did not provide glazing for the cockpit? I built mine wheels up but if you are building wheels down you might have fun getting enough weight in the nose (assuming it needs it - you may be lucky). Cheers Pete
JOCKNEY Posted May 28, 2019 Posted May 28, 2019 Hi Ash Another great choice from you, and another really unusual choice of aircraft for Frog to offer. Delighted to see it here, really looking forward to seeing you complete it, good luck. cheers Pat 2
Doccur Posted May 28, 2019 Author Posted May 28, 2019 7 hours ago, PeterB said: Hi Ash, Looking forward to this one. I seem to recall that Frog did not provide glazing for the cockpit? I built mine wheels up but if you are building wheels down you might have fun getting enough weight in the nose (assuming it needs it - you may be lucky). Cheers Pete I’m undecided on this yet! So many options! Also yes, no side glazings! Although these need fixing as they are way too far backwards. 27 minutes ago, JOCKNEY said: Hi Ash Another great choice from you, and another really unusual choice of aircraft for Frog to offer. Delighted to see it here, really looking forward to seeing you complete it, good luck. cheers Pat Thanks Pat! I love to choose something a bit different, my skills aren’t good enough to catch the eye with a spit or 109! 2
Rabbit Leader Posted May 29, 2019 Posted May 29, 2019 How classy does this jet look and how brave was Frog to decide to make it? I t's a pity these kits are so hard (or expensive) to come by so can't wait to see you tackle this and show us all how it's done. Cheers.. Dave (who is now trying to count how many Frog kits will be added to the Stash!) 1 1
Doccur Posted May 29, 2019 Author Posted May 29, 2019 10 hours ago, Rabbit Leader said: How classy does this jet look and how brave was Frog to decide to make it? I t's a pity these kits are so hard (or expensive) to come by so can't wait to see you tackle this and show us all how it's done. Cheers.. Dave (who is now trying to count how many Frog kits will be added to the Stash!) Its such a sleek machine... that is why I had to have one! You'd be surprised... this one cost me about £13! But I dare say an original Frog would cost a tad more... Cheers Ash 1
The Tomohawk Kid Posted May 29, 2019 Posted May 29, 2019 On 28/05/2019 at 17:08, Doccur said: It is fantastic, it really was the golden era of aviation back then! I have no idea when this was sold but it was stickered up for 39p! Novo kits first appeared in the UK in late 1979 and early 1980. Tommo. 1
PhantomBigStu Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 Nice, one I would like to do if it wasn't so rare 1
PhoenixII Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 On 5/28/2019 at 1:46 PM, PeterB said: .....seem to recall that Frog did not provide glazing for the cockpit? Cheers, Pete. Your recall is spot on Pete, just the windscreen. Not a problem, as the window openings are in the wrong place and need to be moved forward....and don't forget the quarter lights! Yes, I'm building one as well, my build will go on beginning of next week. My excuse, club meeting tomorrow and the Northern show on Sunday. Paul 1
Richard Humm Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 On 5/29/2019 at 1:24 PM, The Tomohawk Kid said: Novo kits first appeared in the UK in late 1979 and early 1980. Tommo. A bit earlier than that - I bought a Novo Fairey Barracuda in Woolworths in 1977. Novo Toys, the importer, went out of business in late 1980.
PeterB Posted June 1, 2019 Posted June 1, 2019 21 hours ago, Richard Humm said: A bit earlier than that - I bought a Novo Fairey Barracuda in Woolworths in 1977. Novo Toys, the importer, went out of business in late 1980. Hi Richard That might explain why my Shackleton turned up in a bag with no maker details - sprues say made in USSR and photocopy of Frog instructions says imported by Hannants. I am betting it was disposal of old Novo stock after they failed. Pete 1
Richard Humm Posted June 1, 2019 Posted June 1, 2019 Production continued in the USSR after Novo went out of business, so Hannants may have sourced the kits directly from the factory - DFI of Donetsk in Ukraine. 2 1
rayprit Posted June 1, 2019 Posted June 1, 2019 56 minutes ago, Richard Humm said: Production continued in the USSR after Novo went out of business, so Hannants may have sourced the kits directly from the factory - DFI of Donetsk in Ukraine. Superb information - I love all this history
stevej60 Posted June 1, 2019 Posted June 1, 2019 4 hours ago, PeterB said: Hi Richard That might explain why my Shackleton turned up in a bag with no maker details - sprues say made in USSR and photocopy of Frog instructions says imported by Hannants. I am betting it was disposal of old Novo stock after they failed. Pete Pete about fifteen year's ago at the Northern show I bought a shack molded in white from a huge pile bagged with decal's but no box,the guy had bought them as a job lot from eastern Europe I think he had a shop in West Yorks. 1
JOCKNEY Posted June 2, 2019 Posted June 2, 2019 I've never seen a Shackleton in a Novo box, but I'd be delighted to see one if anyone can take a picture !
PeterB Posted June 2, 2019 Posted June 2, 2019 15 hours ago, JOCKNEY said: I've never seen a Shackleton in a Novo box, but I'd be delighted to see one if anyone can take a picture ! Perhaps they could not get a big enough box - this is a big old bird which should in theory scale out at 1" less than a B29, though the official length figures quoted may include guns - mine works out 4ft short but so do my accurate scale plans for the Lincoln, but both have exactly right wingspan - go figure as a mate of mine in the States would say. Joking apart I too would like to see a pic of a boxed Novo one. Pete 2
PeterB Posted June 3, 2019 Posted June 3, 2019 On 6/2/2019 at 12:14 AM, stevej60 said: Pete about fifteen year's ago at the Northern show I bought a shack molded in white from a huge pile bagged with decal's but no box,the guy had bought them as a job lot from eastern Europe I think he had a shop in West Yorks. Steve - I wonder if that might have been MHW of Crossroads - bought quite a bit from him but he seems to have gone now. Pat - there is a pic of a Novo box on Scalemates - crude artwork looks like a photocopy! Pete 1
Doccur Posted June 5, 2019 Author Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) Quick update: deflashed all the parts and had a little test fit: Fit isn’t horrendous, considering this kit first came out 60 years ago! I have decided to keep the nose fixed and display it wheels up. Cheers, Ash Edited June 6, 2019 by Doccur 9
Jinxman Posted June 6, 2019 Posted June 6, 2019 That's a pretty looking aeroplane - and it could do what it was designed to as well. 1
PeterB Posted June 6, 2019 Posted June 6, 2019 That looks a lot better than I remember Ash, somehow bigger and with a much better finish to the plastic than my Frog original. Should make up nicely. 1
TonyW Posted June 6, 2019 Posted June 6, 2019 That's right out of the school of 'If it looks right, it is right' I must have drawn a hundred planes like it as a kid. Add that plane to the classic FROG round stand and you have a winner every time. 5
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