smellybeard Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 4 hours ago, Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies said: I'd have to disagree there, but using numbers to be objective. Numbers from a website are numbers from a website; they're not paint and they and the website didn't exist when the first F-4K was painted. There's objective for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 7 hours ago, smellybeard said: Numbers from a website are numbers from a website; they're not paint and they and the website didn't exist when the first F-4K was painted. There's objective for you. The website was for ease of reference for your benefit. I am well aware that the website did not exist when the Phantoms were built. What I know and you apparently don't however is that tables of published colour coordinates have accompanied the British Standards for paint colours for decades before the Phantoms were built. The specifications for Extra Dark Sea Grey have not changed in the applicable time span. I could have scanned the relevant table of from my paper copy of BS381C, hosted it and posted but I suspect I'd still have received the same type of response only it would have taken me more time. Here's an explanation of how the colour coordinates work and hopefully should cast some light on how people who make paint industrially use them: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIELAB_color_space 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellybeard Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies said: I suspect I'd still have received the same type of response PM'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 30 minutes ago, smellybeard said: PM'd. I'm tempted to post that PM here. I think it's best if we do not converse any further. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Leader Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 31 minutes ago, Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies said: I'm tempted to post that PM here. I think it's best if we do not converse any further. Good call gents. This Classic kit GB has been a huge success and we’ve all had a tonne of fun over the last few months building our Frog kits to the best of our abilities. It would be a shame to see any of these threads develop into an argument of sorts, so thanks for respecting the wishes of the GB members on here, especially @Dermo245. Cheers and kind regards.. Dave 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Although this seemed to have stopped now thanks to Jamie's self-control, I would advise both parties to cease with the hostilities, disrupting poor Dermo's thread. @Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies if the PM is rude and aggressive so that it breaches the "Polite & Respectful" tenets of the site, us Mods would in interested in seeing a copy. Up to you though 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermo245 Posted October 19, 2019 Author Share Posted October 19, 2019 (edited) So with the last bits added (and fixed), she's done! Happy to get it finished and kinda-looks like a Phantom from across the room Frog F-4K M Phantom_Done_19 by Dermot Moriarty, on Flickr Thanks to @JOCKNEY @Rabbit Leader and @vppelt68 for the GB and all your comments and suggestions. Will post some more pics in the Gallery and looking forward to the next classic kit GB. Happy modelling. Dermot Edited October 19, 2019 by Dermo245 Fixing photo links 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul821 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 On 5/27/2019 at 12:56 PM, Dermo245 said: Those with a love of UK Phantoms, the Fleet Air Arm.....and any dose of accuracy, please look away for the next few months To an extent I followed this advice... however the end result certainly looks like a UK Phantom and this is a type that certainly deserves to be in the gallery. An excellent outcome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnson Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Looks every inch a Phantom! And modelled from a difficult kit too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandboof Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Well done Dermo Looks like an RN Phantom Martin H 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimrod54 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 A fabulous looking F-4, and it's good to see another Navy bird joining the others in the gallery. Well done getting it finished Dermot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinxman Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Looks like a Phantom to me - cracking build I reckon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Congratulations Dermot If i ever get my finger out and build a Phantom ill base it on this one. There is something very special about a Royal Navy Phantom and you have captured it perfectly. Cheers Pat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 6 hours ago, Dermo245 said: like a Phantom from across the room Yeah, I reckon so & a bit closer too, even if it doesn't quite stand up to close scrutiny, the job you've done with it is a beaut. 👍 Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Leader Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Well it ain’t a Spitfire Dermot! That’s certainly a combat machine from the McDonnell stable and I must say, it’s dressed up rather nicely in those RN colours. You’ve done a might fine job and it looks great. Cheers and thanks so much for taking part.. Dave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lastvautour Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Can illuminate me? Is this an F-4J or K? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexB Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Lastvautour said: Can illuminate me? Is this an F-4J or K? I believe this old kit is closer to an F-4B! It's the original Hasegawa tool, and they just added different Rolls Royce engine nozzles to their F-4J boxing. It certainly isn't really a Spey engined variant, but it was the best anyone could hope for in the late 1960s! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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