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PROPELLER

Avions Voisin C7 L 1/8

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On 26/11/2019 at 04:49, PROPELLER said:

PS: Something is missing? Yes, I know:

 

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I'm not an artist engraver, sorry...

Perhaps you could print it onto photo paper, which can be thinned down, and glue it to the pedal and then varnish it? It might work...

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Thank you gentlemen!

To Jo thanks, it's a solution. But it's a typical photo-etch job... Not in my workshop!

 

As promised, exhaust line:

 

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As usual, parts:

 

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Next? Big challenge...

Wait and see!

 

Dan.

 

 

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Hi everyone!

A big challenge indeed, the grill... 

 

First step, foam and after wood:

 

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Then, 0.3 annealed aluminum sheet and let's go...

 

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The grill will be sprayed with Alclad chrome, any metal support are OK!

Settings, always:

 

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Now, internal pieces, reinforcing plate before cutting that will give thickness...

 

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And the piece that will receive the hood:

 

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As usual, many traps! Don't forget the protective leather band...

 

That's all for now guys! Lot of work and nothing completed!

It's the rough life of mad scratch builders.

 

Dan.

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18 hours ago, PROPELLER said:

Lot of work and nothing completed!

It's the rough life of mad scratch builders.

I know that feeling very well...:lol:

 

Progress, however small, is still progress, so keep up the good work, Dan.

 

Cheers, H

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Well, I'm come back to my neighbour...
Another bad joke, Voisin a french word, is neighbour in english!

 

But here, it's a car:

(All pieces are dry fitted, of course...)

 

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What is this? You will understand soon...

 

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Understood? Its easy:

 

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In situ:

 

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Another thing, no glue at home!

 

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The radiator itself, another bad joke or a nightmare, french people, you know...

 

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Dan.

 

 

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I got a new superb reference pic, thanks Phil!, and surprise the wheels are flanged both side!

 

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I need a break on the radiator/nightmare...
It's a real step forward.
Flanges are not finished, wings nuts either, I suppose you can trust me...

 

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Brake drums of course are made too:

 

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Flanges how to? First a round(!) aluminum piece... You can see in front the

piece with the flange form, here used as a clamp.

 

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An now hobbing job! On annealed piece of course.

 

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Next? Wing nuts...

 

Thanks for watching, 

Dan. 

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On 11/25/2019 at 3:49 PM, PROPELLER said:

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I'm not an artist engraver, sorry...

That's a beautiful build - why not photo etch the pedals? (or faces at least) that would be really easy in half etch nickel as it's all the same relief? I'll knock up a CAD drawing for you if you give me accurate dimensions and shape for the pedals, there is an outfit in the UK that will etch one-off sheets fairly inexpensively - I think I paid around £40 for a 1/2 etch A5 brass sheet last time I used them.

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Thanks gentlemen!

To Nick, thank you very much for your kind proposition. But it's a lot

of work and money for an invisible thing...

 

Come to the flanges, done!

 

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Of course wing nuts will be chromed...

 

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How to? Mill and time!

 

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And...

 

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Dan.

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Dan I have two questions:

That is an amazing amount of positive camber in the original and your model. I wonder how that was determined as needed. I assume it got worse on the outside tire in a turn...

 

The rubber-appearing tires are amazing, especially the weighted fronts. How did you realize them - are they simply O-rings of the fortunate size?

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On 24/12/2019 at 18:09, Codger said:

I assume it got worse on the outside tire in a turn...

I suppose it's a joke?

Or what a turn!

 

At that time I think this angle has been determined empirically.

All the makes give this enormous angle, the same...

 

Bugatti, pic got on the gorgeous site  ModelMotors car:

 

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Voisin, thanks again Phil:

 

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Alfa Roméo got on Scalemotorscar...

 

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And now, tires.

One more time, thanks Mr POCHER! Its the rear tires of the Fiat Grand Prix...

O-rings will be a good solution sometime!

 

Dan.

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35 minutes ago, PROPELLER said:

I suppose it's a joke?

Or what a turn!

And now, tires.

One more time, thanks Mr POCHER! Its the rear tires of the Fiat Grand Prix...

O-rings will be a good solution sometime!

 

Dan.

Well thank you Dan for your reply but I meant it as a serious question. Yes, it seems all the early autos employed similar geometry. Probably significant toe-out also to aid turn-in. I just never understood why. So different from what we employ today. Perhaps Jo from NZ will shed light having a superior mechanical mind to mine.

Excellent use of ready made Pocher tires-never thought of that.

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Positive camber was an easy way to counter "the dreaded side-slip" or oversteer as we now call it. It promoted understeer, so the driver had a tendency to lift off when going too fast, which I'm told is easier than a bit of opposite lock...  Basically it's a choice between going off the road forwards or backwards. It also gave more steering stability (although I don't know why toe-in alone wouldn't do that) and made the steering lighter.

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Thanks Jo, I agree!

Note négative or neutral camber appears only with independent suspension, especially

on racing cars...

Codger, I'm sorry I think is the result of my poor translation!  

 

Dan.

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Well, come back to the radiator...

Now, it was a nightmare, almost fished, almost!

 

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Without a martyrdom, nothing possible!

 

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Next, pipes...

 

Dan.

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Well, pipes are OK... without picture! Sorry!

But it's time to headlights story. Big headlights, very big headlight, remember:

 

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The goal:

 

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First, thank you again Mr Pocher. The basis of mine are Pocher's Rolls Royce!

These kits are also an organ bank.

Of course some modifications are needed.

You can see the new piece on the left the second on the background.

Some hours on the lathe...

 

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Why the stem still there? You will understand later!

 

Unfinished, but on the right way:

 

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Stem here, the reason why:

 

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What a surprise! Soft solder works on the Pocher's "chrome"...

 

Happy new year to all!

 

Dan. 

 

 

 

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Thanks gentlemen!

Head lights and more....

 

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Then, a small break for holidays!

 

Dan.

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No holidays while creating a masterpiece Dan. :whip:

You have really captured the character of this thing...............

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9 minutes ago, Codger said:

 

You have really captured the character of this thing...............

You can't give me a best compliment Codger...
Thank you a lot!

Dan.

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Woodwork, more but not the end!

 

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The wood frame is removable, as in the real life.

 

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Some wood pieces are coming...

Dan.

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It's so beautiful Dan!

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