fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Many of you may know that I don't build "modern" planes. However, when I was sent this as a gift by one of my kit providers because it was missing a part, I couldn't but smile at the utter naivete of this old kit: I mean, look at this: 39 cents: And even better: remember when the customer was king? the time when agencies and even private entities would advocate for consumer rights? Yes, young ones and fledglings: once upon a time customers were not, like now, the slaves and best enemies of the merchants and corporations, they were people with rights. Imagine that. So as you can see in the box "Good Housekeeping" will grant his seal and warranty to those merchants of quality goods willing to give a damn about their customers. Amazing, n'est pas? Verbal instructions, the (yellowy) paper predecessor of Siri: Contents: Those horrid, absolutely ruin-it-all engraved placement marks for the decals. Oh, my, who was the one guilty of concocting this "help"? off with his head! : More: And more still: Rather hefty but not totally unclear transparencies: The decal sheet, Not the sharpest print, and in any case I don't think I would like to use them: The horizontal tail, fortunately free of inscriptions. A proof-of-concept trial run for making the replacement for the missing part (engine front): And now another, a bit better one: And we now have the replacement ready: Next step: struggle to fill those despicable and absolutely stupid and unnecessary engravings, without destroying the otherwise quite nice surface detail. And at this point I rhetorically ask myself: would I really like to build this one? Would I scratch the interior? Where is the landing gear? (I refuse to use that démodé ugly base with stick, so paseé and unsightly!). What were these primitive kitmakers thinking...it's like getting into the mind of a trilobite, or a primordial worm... Why spend all those resources on a relatively nice (even engraved panel lines!) surface and then ruin it all engraving the detail for which you provide the decals anyway? Why such detailed exterior and then inside the mysterious void, the philosophical vacuum? Was it a reflection or statement on human nature? We are not just mere kitbuilders after all, we are philosophers, social critics, anthropologists, historians (and some among us are even unbearable sods, to cover all bases). I leave you now to reflect upon the precedent in the soothing solitude of your monastic cell, facing the building board where surely lies that half-cooked project. Talk to you soon. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wlad Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Now, now. In their infinite wisdom, they knew the decals would go brittle and break into a million pieces when you tried to use them, so they engraved those nice masking guides for you. Who needs decals anyway? Seriously, I had no idea there was a kit of any of the commander series. They are nice looking airplanes. Shame about the scale, 1/81!? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinky coffeeboat Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 But apparently they only ever thought that modellers would only buy one of their model - what if you didn't want to make N680SC? Ask for your Good Housekeeping approved refund? It is a lovely looking kit (rubbish stand excepted) with pretty neat detailing (decal placement guides excepted too). Have you a scheme in mind? Jeff 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 HA! I used to have one of those years and years ago!!!! It came to me built but not painted or decalled. I had a go at painting in all those markings with moderate success ( I was only about 12 then) I passed it on to a guy at the club for a small fee as it had by then, a missing prop. I did have a go at adding undercarriage from surplus parts. Look forward to seeing what magic you can cast over this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Lots of rhetorical questions there Moa but putting questions and decal locations aside, the kit couldn't have come to a better person. You have demonstrated your prowess with warty old kits, worked your magic and produced some smashing subjects. I don't think it'll be long before we see another fine example of your work. Stuart 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 8, 2019 Author Share Posted May 8, 2019 9 hours ago, pinky coffeeboat said: Have you a scheme in mind? Jeff I started to look at alternatives and there are actually many interesting ones. I will post some later. 9 hours ago, Paul J said: I used to have one of those years and years ago!!!! It came to me built but not painted or decalled. You also got a rescue kit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Ranger Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 (edited) That kit originally sold for the princely sum of 29¢ in 1956! I know, because that year I was a 10-year-old spending my $1-a-week allowance on plastic models, and that kit was one of my favorites. Give it a break already. I have some drawings which may help with details of landing gear and interior, if you are interested. Email me: mcmurtreyjames(at)twc(dot)com Edited May 8, 2019 by Space Ranger 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 8, 2019 Author Share Posted May 8, 2019 35 minutes ago, Space Ranger said: That kit originally sold for the princely sum of 29¢ in 1956! I know, because that year I was a 10-year-old spending my $1-a-week allowance on plastic models, and that kit was one of my favorites. Give it a break already. I have some drawings which may help with details of landing gear and interior, if you are interested. Email me: mcmurtreyjames(at)twc(dot)com Interesting information, thanks for adding it. I will not give it a break, no sir. It's part of the fun. And sometimes the best part. Your attachment to this spawn of the 50's comes from subjective beliefs and not from kit science. The poking shall and will continue. Cheers 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 8, 2019 Author Share Posted May 8, 2019 The firebrand decal areas are masked so putty can be later applied: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolay Polyakov Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Very interesting, @Moa!👍 Why not to paint these decal placement marks? It’s something old school’ish 😌 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 8, 2019 Author Share Posted May 8, 2019 46 minutes ago, Nikolay Polyakov said: Very interesting, @Moa!👍 Why not to paint these decal placement marks? It’s something old school’ish 😌 Nikolay: It is not an unlikely proposition, to finish the kit as it was intended originally, but...hum...better not 😉 I just couldn't look at it after that. Besides, it's too late: 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolay Polyakov Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, Moa said: Nikolay: It is not an unlikely proposition, to finish the kit as it was intended originally, but...hum...better not 😉 Yes, I know you’re only feeling right with a kit after some sanding! 😹 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 8, 2019 Author Share Posted May 8, 2019 There are a number of these than could be chosen. Some are from Argentina, either in official capacity (LQ-) or privated (LV-). One, LQ-IFH, worked for the INTA (Instituto Nacional de Tecnología Agropecuaria -National Institute of Agriculture and Livestock Technology-), a research institute my son worked for long ago (from the Peter Keating Collection website): http://aflyinghistory.com/search-aeroplane-photographs?query=Aero+Commander From Airliners.Net: https://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled/Aero-Commander-680-Commander/2475309/L Many others are being also considered. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 8, 2019 Author Share Posted May 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nikolay Polyakov said: Yes, I know you’re only feeling right with a kit after some sanding! 😹 Yes, I admit, I am rather "tactile", and building MUST imply effort 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 8, 2019 Author Share Posted May 8, 2019 Well, not so fast. LQ-IFH is actually a Commander 500, therefore it differs from the kit in some areas (note for example the end of the engine gondola). So that one won't fly, so to speak. There is a NASA machine that is not bad, but the search continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolay Polyakov Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Unlike the box art, the real airframe has an elegant shapes and looks superb with the landing gear extended. Have you planned to scratch build the landing gear or just use a supplied pedestal base? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 How about G-AWOE, seen circa 1982 at Elstree, UK? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 8, 2019 Author Share Posted May 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nikolay Polyakov said: Unlike the box art, the real airframe has an elegant shapes and looks superb with the landing gear extended. Have you planned to scratch build the landing gear or just use a supplied pedestal base? If you read above at the beginning of the post you will realize I will not be using the pedestal, but add the landing gear. I can't think of anything that detracts more from a model than that. It makes them look like those simplified "desk" models. More like a marketing device than a real replica. Brrrr! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 8, 2019 Author Share Posted May 8, 2019 The engine nacelle presents the wheel in retracted position, so that had to be fixed and the LG doors added (same for the nose): The two exhausts will need drilling: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolay Polyakov Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Moa said: If you read above at the beginning of the post you will realize I will not be using the pedestal, but add the landing gear. Yes, sorry! I skipped it because of «smart picture loading» feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Or N171SC, seen in Belize December 1986 (The US register/FAA incorrectly shows this as a 560, which is no great surprise since it was/is an impounded drug runner and could be anything!) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 8, 2019 Author Share Posted May 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, Sabrejet said: How about G-AWOE, seen circa 1982 at Elstree, UK? Not bad. On one hand it's not particularly cheerful color-wise, on the other, all that black will effectively hide the unavoidable little blemishes that will result for the extensive elimination of the undesired engravings (it was black on the top wings too). Under consideration, and thanks for posting it. Cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 8, 2019 Author Share Posted May 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Sabrejet said: Or N171SC, seen in Belize December 1986 (The US register/FAA incorrectly shows this as a 560, which is no great surprise since it was/is an impounded drug runner and could be anything!) Thanks for posting these. This one has an unhappy color combination, and a scheme that sort of says "I am old" 😁 The search continues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Moa said: Not bad. On one hand it's not particularly cheerful color-wise, on the other, all that black will effectively hide the unavoidable little blemishes that will result for the extensive elimination of the undesired engravings (it was black on the top wings too). Under consideration, and thanks for posting it. Cheers Better/clearer photos than mine are available on the net: plus it gained stroboscopic prop blades later in life too. I see it's still there, 35 or more years later, though not so shiny now. I was never quite sure why it was painted thus, but it's an interesting scheme. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 8, 2019 Author Share Posted May 8, 2019 15 minutes ago, Sabrejet said: Better/clearer photos than mine are available on the net: I got to them as soon as you posted it. Nicely documented and will make things easier if I go for it. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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