giemme Posted May 11, 2019 Author Share Posted May 11, 2019 Thanks Johnny, and you are of course welcome on board! Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 16 hours ago, Spookytooth said: So she got me this one. She didn't do that for a wind up did she. Steve. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookytooth Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 On 11/05/2019 at 12:16, stevehnz said: She didn't do that for a wind up did she. She did mate LOL. And here it is . That gives you an idea of construction. The kit went together well but numerous seam lines made it impossible to create he fine lines of this plane. Also the cockpit detail was non existent, and the canopy was to say the least opaque. The marking were lo viz to report, And the load out quite suspect... Anyhow its finished in under a day for me. Apologies to you @giemme, but @bbudde said about it. Simon. 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbudde Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 26 minutes ago, Spookytooth said: Anyhow its finished in under a day for me. Congrats Simon and sorry Giorgio, you really can't compete with that one, no matter what you are trying to do. So, too many likes to Simon for that 3D cutaway model of a mean fighter. Cheers 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted May 12, 2019 Author Share Posted May 12, 2019 Alright, after Simon beat me to building a Typhoon, I'd better get going with this I started painting the cockpit: after a coat of Vallejo Grey Primer thinned with Future, I airbrushed Tamiya XF1 Flat Black on the fuselage sidewalls and on the IP, tub, control stick and seat I then airbrushed Lifecolor Dark Gull Grey mixed with a bit of Light Gull Grey for scale effect, again on the tub and on the IP while the seat received a dark grey dry brush, to pick up details and facilitate the still to come detail painting Here's the tub after detail painting and a black tempera wash Ignore the bottom of the tub, it's going to be almost completely hidden by the seat. the same went for the IP - I tried to reproduce the screen glasses by brush painting Alclad Aqua Gloss on them The macro effect makes it look quite messy, but it's not that bad in real life. The aircraft I'm modelling is supposed to be almost pristine, so I did try to emphasize some features of the cockpit, rather than doing a propre weathering. I hope it will look OK, once everything is in place and buttoned up inside the fuselage. Comments welcome Ciao 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VT Red Sox Fan Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Giorgio--really enjoyed catching up with this build--the forum's picture sharing coupled with your overlays to test the nose shape demonstrated powerful info sharing! Really liked the comparison of the Pavala cockpit with the kits. FWIW, it seems Revell/Monogram 1/72 fighter kits with tall tail halves molded as part of the fuselage half seem to have the warping problem. I have about 6x 1/72 Revell F-105s in the stash and the tails all are warped (the Trumpeters Tails are not warped and the plastic is thicker on the tail than their Revell/Monogram cousins--but I still love the older Thud kit). Understand some might push back since the Typhoon/F-105 models are completely different generations of kits (I believe the Revell 1/72 F-105 based off Monogram's 1/48 Thud making it a great 1980s vintage build)--still, the issue of tail warping from the same manufacturer is an interesting similarity--tracking the progression of this build with interest! Best, Erwin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookenbacher Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Off to a great start Giorgio, even it will be the second Typhoon completed in this thread.😁 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VT Red Sox Fan Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Cookenbacher said: Off to a great start Giorgio, even it will be the second Typhoon completed in this thread.😁 What can I say--well played 🙂 Best, Erwin 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted May 13, 2019 Author Share Posted May 13, 2019 8 hours ago, VT Red Sox Fan said: Giorgio--really enjoyed catching up with this build--the forum's picture sharing coupled with your overlays to test the nose shape demonstrated powerful info sharing! Really liked the comparison of the Pavala cockpit with the kits. FWIW, it seems Revell/Monogram 1/72 fighter kits with tall tail halves molded as part of the fuselage half seem to have the warping problem. I have about 6x 1/72 Revell F-105s in the stash and the tails all are warped (the Trumpeters Tails are not warped and the plastic is thicker on the tail than their Revell/Monogram cousins--but I still love the older Thud kit). Understand some might push back since the Typhoon/F-105 models are completely different generations of kits (I believe the Revell 1/72 F-105 based off Monogram's 1/48 Thud making it a great 1980s vintage build)--still, the issue of tail warping from the same manufacturer is an interesting similarity--tracking the progression of this build with interest! Best, Erwin Thanks Erwin 👍 The plastic in the fin area of this kit is indeed very thin; I'd be curious to see the new tool of this kit, in which the tail fin is moulded as a separate piece, to check if this addressed the problem. 8 hours ago, Cookenbacher said: Off to a great start Giorgio, even it will be the second Typhoon completed in this thread.😁 True, Simon was much quicker than me. Thanks Cookie Ciao 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookytooth Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Sorry for the thread high jack Giemme with the Typhoon, just had to be done. That office mate, it`s going to look good mate. Up to your excellent standard. For the IP screens, try silver under a clear blue/smoke mix. Simon. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted May 13, 2019 Author Share Posted May 13, 2019 No problem Simon - and thanks for the praise, mate And thanks for the tip on the IP screens, I'll try that next time Ciao 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Nice looking office😍 bringing back fond memories of this one. 😀 Johnny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 I go off for a few days and you're already on page 4! Caught up now and great start Giorgio I built one in the RAF BoB 75th Anniversary scheme some time ago (2016). Might be worth a quick look to see what problems I had? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 On 15/05/2019 at 00:06, The Spadgent said: Nice looking office😍 bringing back fond memories of this one. 😀 Johnny Thanks J I keep going back and forth to your build thread for reference 8 hours ago, CedB said: I go off for a few days and you're already on page 4! Caught up now and great start Giorgio I built one in the RAF BoB 75th Anniversary scheme some time ago (2016). Might be worth a quick look to see what problems I had? Thanks Ced I was there for your build, but thank you for the heads up: I just went through your WIP and saw a couple of things I hadn't noticed during my dry fitting Ciao 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted May 19, 2019 Author Share Posted May 19, 2019 (edited) Hi everybody; eventually managed some workbench time, so there it goes. As it happens, I wasn't totally happy with the IP and tub, plus after checking again the reference shots for that area, there was some more detail painting needed: In the IP, I also repainted with Italeri Flat Black the left screen, and gloss coated all of them with Tamiya Gloss Clear I will attempt Simon's @Spookytooth tip about painting displays on the HUD projector, but that will be after joining the fuselage halves. Net, I completed the remaining cockpit parts: control stick (not much to see, really) and seat I mostly used Lifecolor paints for this, and a black tempera wash and various grey shades of dry brushing to pick out details. And I did remember to put on those red stickers - thanks @CedB Dry fit of the seat Back now to the construction; there a re a few improvements I've been thinking of - one concerning the rudder: in most pictures of real Typhoons, it is seen displaced. So I cut it out from the spare fuselage halves, using a micro saw and a scriber and glued the two resulting halves with Tamiya Green Cap after one night curing and a tad of clean up I then removed the rudder bits from the "real" fuselage halves Both the tail fin and the rudder will be refined once I glue the fuselage. Second improvement for the night is some rescribing: as @Creepy Pete pointed out at the very beginning of this thread, there are some panel lines missing around the cockpit area, and some others are wrong. So out came CA+flour, to fill in the wrong ones They are on the canard bulge and right above the main intake, top left. Both sided, of course After sanding and polishing, I checked the seams with a water slide marker This really gets into any minimal seam and shows any blemishes. Then with the help of some Tamiya tape for curves and my INCIDOTM, it was time to scribe the missing panel lines Once done, I ran some Tamiya Green Cap along the new lines to clean them up properly, followed by a black tempera wash This is as close as I could get to the real thing without having to mess around the complex curved area near the intakes There's a third improvement: the APU exhaust. On, the kit, it is presented just like a slightly recessed oval-ish shape; I decided to reproduce the actual exhaust using some PE leftover. So I first carved out the area in the spare fuselage I went a bit overboard here - it is just as good that I can test stuff on a spare part! I then cut a strip from a leftover PE fret, bent the round part around a suitable drill bit and cut to size. The join was then soldered, following Tony @TheBaron's advice: temperature setting on the mid-low range and lots of flux (liquid, in my case). After a first polish with a Dremel sanding disc Test fit inside the oversize aperture Next pic shows it on the correct fuselage, and after some refining with a Dremel burr to thin it down It's going to need more refining and careful positioning, but I'm quite happy with it so far. Comments welcome, as usual Ciao Edited May 19, 2019 by giemme 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbudde Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Yep Giorgio, that seat looks the part as the cockpit does. Cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted May 19, 2019 Author Share Posted May 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, bbudde said: Yep Giorgio, that seat looks the part as the cockpit does. Cheers Thanks Benedikt I inadvertently pressed the Save button while in the middle of writing my last post, so there are lots more pics now Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Lovely cockpit and some neat soldering on that exhaust Giorgio. 👏 👏 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Seconded! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Oh well, has to be done - thirded! K 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Excellent progress, I like the APU 'xorst. Steve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted May 20, 2019 Author Share Posted May 20, 2019 15 hours ago, TheBaron said: Lovely cockpit and some neat soldering on that exhaust Giorgio. 👏 👏 14 hours ago, CedB said: Seconded! 14 hours ago, keefr22 said: Oh well, has to be done - thirded! K 9 hours ago, stevehnz said: Excellent progress, I like the APU 'xorst. Steve. Thank you Tony, Ced, Keith and Steve However, I had a rethink about the APU exhaust: I'm going to try and fabricate another one slightly larger (without touching the fuselage plastic, that is fine as it is ) Ciao 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookytooth Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Forthed Giemme, great work on the pit. And very neat soldering on the exhaust sir. Simon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookenbacher Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Wonderful detail work Giorgio, you are really pulling out all the stops on this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Very nice work in the "office" there Giorgio. Terry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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