28ZComeback Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 In the last 20 seconds of this video, taken in North Korea, 1948, a Russian pilot straps into a Yak-9. It looks like a Yak-9D to me, but could it be a “T” or “DD”? Thank you in advance. https://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675068277_Russian-troops_Russian-officers-speak_receive-gifts-from-people_aviators-hold-children Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 It appears to be a forward cockpit version, so not a T. I don't think it would be possible to tell a 9D from a DD, in that view. But were those Kates at end? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28ZComeback Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 (edited) Yes Kates. I thought they might be Su-2’s but then thought otherwise. Probably some leftover film the North Koreans inherited from the IJN in 1945. I also think the notes are wrong-I do not see Yak-3’s. Thank you Graham! Edited April 17, 2019 by 28ZComeback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nachtwulf Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 They look like Su-2s to me. Kate had more wing dihedral than that . the Yak taking off looks like a Yak-9V . The first Yak does look like either a Yak-9M, D or something along those lines, definitely not a Yak-3. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Ok, I'd go with Su2s. I still think that the good views are not a 9M because of the cockpit position. Kate's were unlikely to be left as NK was primarily an Army concern, but Su2s must be equally unlikely. Oddment of film seems likelier. It may be possible that Soviet training schools still had some Su2s and waste not want not...interesting to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nachtwulf Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, Graham Boak said: Ok, I'd go with Su2s. I still think that the good views are not a 9M because of the cockpit position. Kate's were unlikely to be left as NK was primarily an Army concern, but Su2s must be equally unlikely. Oddment of film seems likelier. It may be possible that Soviet training schools still had some Su2s and waste not want not...interesting to find out. You are right! That is NOT a Yak- 9M. I don't know what I was thinking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28ZComeback Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 Taking off is a Yak-9V. Good eye on that one Wulf. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 This is bizzare, but the "kates" really looks like Su-2! Here is similar front-bottom take: https://st3.depositphotos.com/5632578/15791/i/1600/depositphotos_157913772-stock-photo-the-girl-is-standing-near.jpg I have not heard about use of Su-2 outside Soviet Union so far. In 1945 it was rather obsolate, anyway. Cheers J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massimo Tessitori Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 The Yaks are Yak-9M, rearward cockpit version. then there is a twoseater Yak-9, then flying Su-2s with the ww2 camouflage. In my opinion, nothing to do with Korea, they were inventory images. Regards Massimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28ZComeback Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 The two seater Yak-9 being the Yak-9V? Thank you. This film was prepared by SSR for use in North Korean movie theaters. Not surprised that they used old footage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRK4m Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Massimo Tessitori said: The Yaks are Yak-9M, rearward cockpit version. then there is a twoseater Yak-9, then flying Su-2s with the ww2 camouflage. In my opinion, nothing to do with Korea, they were inventory images. Regards Massimo Absolutely right - single-seater Yaks are "rear canopy/small cannon" variant, so either -9M or -9DD (the radio mast is slanted forward). Taking-off is Yak-9V and the group of radial-engined light bombers are Su-2s. Cheers Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otakar Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 The one in the film is definitely a 9T but Korea used the 9T mostly after that. From what I recall, the Korean aircraft were painted Gray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thompson Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Yak-9T it is - if you look very carefully, the extended muzzle is visible, and the cockpit position is clearly rearward. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28ZComeback Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 I am blind as a bat but cannot see the extended muzzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thompson Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 (edited) Faintly visible at about 01:44, I thought, but now I'm not so sure - could be just background clutter. I'm sorry - my mistake! John Edited April 18, 2019 by John Thompson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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