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Bf-109 B pre-war colors

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What are those colors?? Captioned: "A very rare color photograph of a Bf 109 B-1 being the centre of attention for a group of Hitler Youth, obviously on a visit to a Luftwaffe station in 1938" in Aviation Classics issue 18, 2012
https://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/germany/aircrafts-2/messerschmitt_bf109/messerschmitt-bf-109-color-15/

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I would suggest a 71/02 splinter with thin overspray of 02 with a light mottle of 71 and 65 underside.

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1 hour ago, epozar said:

Captioned: "A very rare color photograph of a Bf 109 B-1 being the centre of attention for a group of Hitler Youth, obviously on a visit to a Luftwaffe station in 1938" in Aviation Classics issue 18, 2012

 

First, I suspect the date is wrong,  and the info below says it's a trainer..

 

Messerschmitt_bf_109_color_15.jpg

 

putting Bf 109KD-VH finds these

bf109b2_146-swfoto.jpg

 

bf109b2_145-swfoto.jpg

 

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Eine Schulmaschine. Sie ist bereits, wie viele spätere Jumo-Maschinen, mit den Auspuffstutzen der Bf 109 E ausgestattet worden.
 

 

A school machine. Like many later Jumo machines, it has already been equipped with the exhaust sockets of the Bf 109 E.

 

from here

https://me109.info/web.php?a=e&l=en&n=ua&f=1370

 

Given ww2 colurs photography, and depending on date,  either the 1940 71/02/ 65  scheme, or a full repaint into standard 74/75/76. 

note

Me_109_d_cf-se_fw_44_sch_far_13_pilsen_1

Me 109D CF+SE of the Schule/Flieger-Ausbildungs-Regiment 13, Pilsen 1941

 

given the Stammkennzeichen, I assume it's identity is known?

 

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Er, the Stammkennzeichen is its identity.  I entirely agree that the date is wrong.  In 1938 Bf109Bs would be in 71/72 over 65, with a low demarcation.  There was another published photo of a training Jumo Bf109, in one of the Kookaburra L/w colours books, probably the replacement first volume?

 

PS Shame he didn't photograph the Stosser.

Edited by Graham Boak

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I'm no expert but I think Troy is right.

Later than the date of 1938 (by a mile) and the camo pattern on the wings doesn't look 'standard' in layout either. 

 

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1 hour ago, Graham Boak said:

There was another published photo of a training Jumo Bf109, in one of the Kookaburra L/w colours books, probably the replacement first volume?

 

yes, was on the cover 

9780858800403-uk.jpg

 

these have been asisbized.... a few more in the galleries,  but these are too good not share

Jagdfliegershule-Bf-109C-unknown-unit-Ge

 

Jagdfliegershule-Bf-109C-unknown-unit-Ge

 

more JFS images here

https://www.asisbiz.com/Bf-109D.html

 

the other notable colour ones are of these E-0 's (according to the captions)

Jagdfliegershule-Bf-109-JFS-White-18-Avi

 

Jagdfliegershule-Bf-109-JFS-Avions-%2018

 

this is later, but note the pinky red tailband with white numbers

 

Jagdfliegershule-Bf-109-JFS-Germany-01.j

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14 hours ago, Graham Boak said:

PS Shame he didn't photograph the Stosser.

Just what I was thinking!

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IIRC, the date of the photograph should be 1942 rather than 1938.

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