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Mirage 4000 interior cockpit & electronic bay photo?


Aardvark

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Hi, all!

 

Looking carefully at Mirage 4000 1/72 Modelsvit, I suddenly discovered that I had absolutely no information about him cockpit electronic bay.

My interesting detail colour equipment inside cockpit electronic bay.

Why I doubt the colors offered Modelsvit in assembling?

Because, Modelsvit in assembling offers paint detail canopy frame as Humbrol 127:

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Really?

Dassault_Mirage_4000,_France_-_Air_Force

Serious? It's Humbrol 127 inside canopy???

 

Next "funny" moments with Mirage 4000 1/72 Modelsvit.

Look on this photo very-very carefully:

mirage4000-1.jpg

It only seems to me,  that the canard , ailerons and the wing zone above main wheel  bay have stencil & white element on canopy:

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???

Probably it's standard sencil "NO STEP" on

French language.

Of course, these stencil are not a Modelsvit decal....

 

That's why I want to double-check the Modelsvit assembling from the photo of the real Mirage 4000.

 

Any help???

 

Resource photo:

Wikipedia, Airwar....and first thing that came across in the search for Google for Humbrol 127...

 

B.R.

Serge

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, eclipse said:

And as a proof of your rightness about the French stencil on the French plane Mirage 4000, which was only in French service, did you cite as an example the English stencil  on the plane Taiwan and Greece? 😲An interesting method!😁

I Should You disappoint, 🤗 in France, on French aircraft, the stencil are written in French. 😉

And in the original, the inscription is usually: "NE PAS MARCHER" as You see:

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Resource photo:

https://hiveminer.com/Tags/aircraft%2Cbastilleday

 

"NE PAS MARCHER" it's:

panneau-ne-pas-marcher-dans-les-pelouse-

as i wrote:

15 hours ago, Aardvark said:

Probably it's standard sencil "NO STEP" on

French language.

But translate stencil not interesting for my.

 

I am interested in the opinion of the Britmodeller community about the presence or absence of stencils "NE PAS MARCHER" on the Mirage 4000.

I think there are stencils "NE PAS MARCHER"

on the Mirage 4000 in desert camouflage.

 

B.R.

Serge

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However, the English stencils used by Dassault for "NE PAS MARCHER" is "KEEP OFF" whatever the plane or the client. And this camouflaged version of the Mirage 4000 illustrated the possible Saudi version. So the markings were in English, not in French.

Look at this picture :

https://www.flickr.com/photos/105244446@N07/11712753226/sizes/o/

If there was "RESCUE" instead of "SAUVETAGE" there was also "KEEP OFF" instead of "NE PAS MARCHER"

And on your own pictures, I see two words (keep off ?), not three (ne pas marcher)...

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9 minutes ago, eclipse said:

However, the English stencils used by Dassault for "NE PAS MARCHER" is "KEEP OFF" whatever the plane or the client. And this camouflaged version of the Mirage 4000 illustrated the possible Saudi version. So the markings were in English, not in French.

If there was "RESCUE" instead of "SAUVETAGE" there was also "KEEP OFF" instead of "NE PAS MARCHER"

...and also just in front, on the black background:

"To free pilot:

1. Break glass

2. Pull handle"

 

best,

M.

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3 hours ago, eclipse said:

And on your own pictures,

It's not my pictures. I only resize part this photo:

mirage4000-1.jpg

from Airwar.ru for clarity.

3 hours ago, eclipse said:

, I see two words (keep off ?)

But, all French jet fighter as I know, stencil type "NE PAS MARCHER" applied from the tail (bottom) to the nose (top), i.e. flight direction:

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and for "Keep off" on photo You posted too: DSC00142.jpg

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But, if we see with nose "Keep off" applied 

from the tail (bottom) to the nose (top), i.e. turned upside down, then on this image the word "keep" was biggest than word "off" !?

But where we see this on that photo:

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???

Or stencil applied 

from the nose

(bottom) to the

tail (top), i.e. against flight direction?! But I do not remember such a method of applying stencils on the French jet fighters.

 

In any case, the fact of the presence of stencils on the desert Mirage 4000 is not disputed here!?

😉

 

B.R.

Serge

 

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1 hour ago, Aardvark said:

But, all French jet fighter as I know, stencil type "NE PAS MARCHER" applied from the tail (bottom) to the nose (top), i.e. flight direction:

 

1 hour ago, Aardvark said:

But I do not remember such a method of applying stencils on the French jet fighters.

And yet...

Look at the markings on the upper surface of the wing of these French and export versions :

Mirage 2000C

https://live.staticflickr.com/937/29841537908_7d1735b9d6_o.jpg

Mirage 2000D

https://live.staticflickr.com/1783/43296665112_94b11a303b_k.jpg

Mirage 2000H

https://www.usinenouvelle.com/mediatheque/8/5/5/000599558/mirage-2000.jpg

Mirage 2000-9

https://images4.alphacoders.com/665/thumb-1920-665978.jpg

 

 

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41 minutes ago, eclipse said:

And yet...

Look at the markings on the upper surface of the wing of these French and export versions :

O.K.

But then what is the font size? Stencils from the Mirage 2000 export hardly fit?

 

In addition, as I see, ( @eclipse

thanks for the photo!)

the stencil on missile  and pylons:

6 hours ago, eclipse said:

is also not in decals Modelsvit ...

What a "great job"   decals designer

Modelsvit! 

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And it seems I know who this decal designer is, let me introduce:

 

О.К. with visible stencil understand - English "Keep Off".

 

What about  color interior inside cockpit electronic bay?

 

 

B.R.

Serge

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3 hours ago, eclipse said:

 

And yet...

I've always assumed the stencils were oriented so that they read the "right way up" from the point of view of someone who is in the most likely place to "marcher" on to them... So the ones at the leading edges face towards someone stepping from a ladder onto the wing; the ones on the canards warn someone on a cockpit boarding ladder not to step across, and the ones on the flaperons are meant to stop you scrambling onto the wing from behind...

 

best,

M.

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Next funny question about cockpit Mirage 4000.

From Mirage 4000 Modelsvit assembling MB.Mk.10:

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Colour key:

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MB.Mk.10 with  Light Blue lining??

It's really??? It's possible??

 

B.R.

Serge.

 

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19 minutes ago, eclipse said:

The only thing I'm sure about is the French SEMMB Mk.10Q are not black ! 

Yes, I too see on photo Mirage 4000 what  head SEMMB Mk.10Q have Dark Grey colour, but as You see from Mirage 4000 Modelsvit assembly

main colour construction ejection seat is "A". From colour key assembly

 "A" is Humbrol 33 i.e Black...how they maked this assembly

 .... I don't understand!!! 🤗

 

I planned use for general colour SEMMB Mk.10Q  Humbrol 125 or Tamiya XF-63.

 

B.R.

Serge

 

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On 4/8/2019 at 8:49 PM, Aardvark said:

My interesting detail colour equipment inside cockpit electronic bay.

By version

site Maquette72

equipment inside cockpit electronic bay colour close yellow  chromat ( as for my Tamiya XF-4 or equivalent):

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Modelsvit in assembling recommend Humbrol 150:

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Feel a differences!

😁

Another interesting moment wheel bay colour.

Modelsvit in assembling recommend Humbrol 147:

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site Maquette72 recommend silver(?):

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But probably early wheel bay was unpainted and late  was repainted in light grey?

 

More photo build Mirage 4000 from site Maquette72 here:

https://m.facebook.com/pg/maquette72/photos/?tab=album&album_id=2393736194243844

 

B.R.

Serge

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