viscount806x Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 2 hours ago, junglierating said: Cor....Selwyn you got me all excited talking about EMRUs and ERUs.....start talking about mk6 no volts test set and you'll set me carts off 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Well I'll help you along until then...... AVO Mk.8 and 250V Wee Megger........... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglierating Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 12 hours ago, viscount806x said: Well I'll help you along until then...... AVO Mk.8 and 250V Wee Megger........... Nah that's just a FLUKE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selwyn Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 I was speaking to an old friend yesterday at work who was an line armourer on the FGA 9 Hunter during his RAF service, and I asked him about the Hunter release units. He stated that the FGA 9 pylon release units were all ERU on this mark, and he had never seen the EMRU equipped pylons. So, looking at the photo evidence it appears that up to the F6 with the small drop tanks the aircraft used EMRU's, and The ERU pylons probably first appeared on the F6A onwards, and on the inboards especially with the large drop tanks (which is logical from the store jettison aspect). There may be some overlap of the F6/F6A marks, with some F6's being retrofitted with the later release units. Another thing I spotted on the diagrams posted was the Air Publication (AP) number in the top RH corner in the format below: 1301 AP 101B- -1A 1301A From my experience of AP's this format of numbering suggests that the AP is applicable to two Marks of aircraft. Without seeing the AP front page title I speculate that the "1301" probably relates to the F6, "1301A" to the F6A which ties in with the photo evidence I have seen. Selwyn 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenMG Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Well spotted Selwyn, the AP I scanned was a combined F.6/F.6A one. It makes no definite distinction between the two as, like you say, some F.6s were retro-fitted with ERUs. 4FTS had a number for example. The FGA.9 picture is a little unclear. As you say it would make sense to have ERU-equipped inboard pylons with the big 230 gallon tanks coming along. Although some folk have stated that, because of the bracing strut, the big tanks were not jettisonable, they actually were - the strut was designed with a clever ball and socket connection at the wing end so it could disconnect and fall way if the tank was jettisoned. So an ERU would make sense to help shove that big tank away. There were plenty of FGA.9s with EMRUs on the outer pylon though so, as ever with Hunters, there are no hard and fast rules. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YK GOH Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 For some reason, the Airfix 1/48 Hunter kit provides 2 sets of inboard pylons and 2 sets of outboard pylons. This gives the opportunity for a simple fix to the incorrect height of both pylons. I estimated that the height of the inboard pylon need to increase approximately by 2mm and the outboard by 1mm. The following pics showed how the height of the inboard pylon is increased. Two inboard pylon parts are cut and joined up to form a modified one with the correct height. Here's the final product for both the inboard and outboard pylons. This still does not have the sway-bracing, but at least it looks right now when the tanks hang on the pylon below the wing. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenMG Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Genius!!! 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali62 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Hi Guys see new sets here https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235054545-new-hunter-sets-for-the-airfix-kit/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YK GOH Posted April 27, 2019 Author Share Posted April 27, 2019 Looks great! Just put in my order. Had also shared the link with the local modelling group here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B (Sc) Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) Having originally asked this as what I thought was probably a silly question, I now have an answer. On the Airfix 1/48th Hunter kit I see the lower wings have holes to be drilled out for locating the inner pylons, and what I presume is a hole to locate the sway brace for 230 gallon tanks. There are also two part drilled holes much further outboard. I presumed those were intended to be in the correct location for fitting the outer pylons They looked a long way out to me so I checked a few sources. I am now convinced the outer pre-drilled positions on the Airfix Hunter wing are incorrect for fitting pylons. They are set in the correct position for the 'A' rail of the old 3 inch RP armament. The correct position for the outer pylon coincides with the position of what was the 'B' rail for the 3 inch RPs. That is why, on old photographs, the second rail of RPs was slightly set back, because the pylon fittings interfered with rail fittings. So don't use the Airfix part drilled outer holes, unless you want to fit RPs. Any comment from the experts welcome! John B Edited April 17, 2020 by John B (Sc) More information found. Query changed to statement, comment awaited. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali62 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 John You are correct....I am still puzzling and researching it out as much as I can BUT it then also throws up a few other errors. I will report back when I have finalised my thoughts, hopefully soon. I am working on a few other Hunter sets so as we go we all learn or are forced to learn more and not to just accept what is given to us. cheers Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B (Sc) Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Thanks Ali. I shall be most interested to hear more, in due course, about the other errors thrown up, which I haven' t yet spotted ! I quite agree that we shouldn't just accept what is given to us - it's surprisingly easy for errors to creep in, despite everyone;s best efforts. Cheers, John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YK GOH Posted April 22, 2020 Author Share Posted April 22, 2020 Hi John and Ali, I vaguely remembered that the positions of the rocket rails were discussed here before. Managed to pull out the thread. Rgds, YK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B (Sc) Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Thanks YK, that topic has helped. A couple of useful photos and drawings there ! John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali62 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Thanks for the links and information guys, all of this has and is helping a lot, I am nearly there sorting out this and a few other little sets for the Hunters,.............stay tuned. Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger331 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 On 4/25/2019 at 2:48 PM, YK GOH said: For some reason, the Airfix 1/48 Hunter kit provides 2 sets of inboard pylons and 2 sets of outboard pylons. This gives the opportunity for a simple fix to the incorrect height of both pylons. I estimated that the height of the inboard pylon need to increase approximately by 2mm and the outboard by 1mm. The following pics showed how the height of the inboard pylon is increased. Two inboard pylon parts are cut and joined up to form a modified one with the correct height. Here's the final product for both the inboard and outboard pylons. This still does not have the sway-bracing, but at least it looks right now when the tanks hang on the pylon below the wing. I would have thought, by now, that most buyers would have realised that this is why Airfix included two sets of each pylon in their kits.....I was just surprised that they had omitted the modification procedures in their kit instructions.😏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali62 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Not a full reply, but I will detail some findings soon as noted in this link that I am linking here, but new sets are available to sort and detail the Hunters further. Soon I will post more pictures and findings here. https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235072218-new-hawker-hunter-sets-for-the-airfix-kit-quite-a-few/ cheers Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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