VMA131Marine Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Also completed today is the HobbyBoss EasyKit version of the Curtiss P-40B. This kit looks the part, mostly, but lacks some details: the cockpit is very simplified and there are no doors for the landing gear fairing. But, it makes for a quick build and I had fun with it. Brush painted with Vallejo Air and finished in the AVG markings of Greg "Pappy" Boyington of later "Baa Baa Blacksheep" fame using Print Scale decals. 35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Nice! It's interesting to see an early Pappy Boyington example modelled. Regards, David 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jean Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Hi there, I love AVG's P-40s, so you sure got my attention. It is extremely well made and painted. So congrats are in order! I am curious: how do the Vallejo Air paints behave when used with a brush? Your model looks just right paint wise, so I suppose they must be OK, but I've got to ask! Never used Vallejo, not that one can find them around here. Don't they have various types of paints? For airbrush, etc.? Great show! JR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMA131Marine Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, jean said: Hi there, I love AVG's P-40s, so you sure got my attention. It is extremely well made and painted. So congrats are in order! I am curious: how do the Vallejo Air paints behave when used with a brush? Your model looks just right paint wise, so I suppose they must be OK, but I've got to ask! Never used Vallejo, not that one can find them around here. Don't they have various types of paints? For airbrush, etc.? Great show! JR There's Vallejo Air, which is formulated for airbrushing, and Vallejo Color, which is for brush painting. I find that Vallejo Air is just the right consistency for brush painting and gives good coverage after 3 thin coats. I use Vallejo Color undiluted for detail painting, but its too thick to paint larger areas with and I thin it with Vallejo Airbrush Thinner. I like the way Vallejo Air airbrushes as well, but I thin it even more and add Vallejo Flow Improver which mostly stops it from drying and building up on the airbrush tip. Vallejo sells a set of paints specifically for USAAC aircraft in the CBI and it includes the Dupont colours used to approximate the RAF Temperate Land Scheme. https://acrylicosvallejo.com/en/producto/hobby/sets/air-war-en/us-army-air-corps-china-burma-india-pacific-theather-cbi-wwii-71184-es/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winenut Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 A bit of a favourite for me and you've done a great job. One thing I have come to know is I think the upper wing marking decals should be closer to the wingtips. Worth keeping in mind and looking at for future builds.....they're so cool I know I'm keen on making another one ! Cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Joyce Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Nicely done for a quick build! Is it my imagination or are some of the propeller blades silver/NMF? Cheers, Mark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMA131Marine Posted April 13, 2019 Author Share Posted April 13, 2019 (edited) On 4/12/2019 at 9:37 PM, Mark Joyce said: Nicely done for a quick build! Is it my imagination or are some of the propeller blades silver/NMF? Cheers, Mark I read an article a while back that early P-40s had props painted aluminium/silver on the front and the back of the blades painted a sort of purple for anti-glare purposes. I'm not sure it's strictly correct for this aircraft, but it's certainly possible. The same issue came up with the P-39s I built recently; an image search quickly turned up period black and white photos with very light coloured blades, definitely not black. Edited September 11, 2019 by VMA131Marine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 1 hour ago, VMA131Marine said: I read an article a while back that early P-40s had props painted aluminium/silver on the front and the back of the blades painted a sort of purple for anti-glare purposes. I'm not sure it's strictly correct for this aircraft, but it's certainly possible. http://www.ascalecanadian.com/2015/09/maroon-19-and-usaac-and-usaaf.html Quote Some have asked why I included Maroon on the propeller blade of my recent P-40 (see previous two posts). Well, a U.S. Army Air Corps paint specification issued in May 1934 called for "propeller blade - flat surface when required" to be painted Maroon 18. For most of the 30s, glare from the propeller blades in flight was not much of an issue, as the blades were unpainted wood with a small metal fitting on the leading edge to prevent damage to the blade. However, with the introduction of metal blades, glare off the blades became a concern for the pilot. It is unknown why the USAAC chose Maroon as the colour, but specs stated as follows: To prevent glare, the face side of the propeller blades may be coated with antiglare. This coating extends from the 18-inch, or 24-inch station, as necessary, to the tip. Maroon lacquer is preferred, but if not available, maroon enamel is used. (Technical Manual - Aircraft Propellers dated January 5, 1941.) So, for any Army aircraft with a silver blade, the rear would be Maroon 18. Sometime after December 1941, a directive was issued to paint the whole blade black. Oddly, aviation writer Dana Bell has stated it was done "to camouflage the spinning prop in flight, which is why it covered the entire prop blade." With this new directive, Maroon 18 ceased to exist for use in the U.S. Army Air Force. A colour chip of Maroon 18 can be seen below: from @airjiml2 blog Quote ANA colour swatches from the Monogram book. Not sure how they will come out on-screen, so caveat emptor as they say. from hope of interest I note also Vallejo specify 'light grey' for the AVG P-40 undersides.... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMA131Marine Posted April 13, 2019 Author Share Posted April 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Troy Smith said: http://www.ascalecanadian.com/2015/09/maroon-19-and-usaac-and-usaaf.html from @airjiml2 blog from hope of interest I note also Vallejo specify 'light grey' for the AVG P-40 undersides.... This is the article I saw, thanks for digging it up. The instruction to paint the blades all black sometime after December 1941 certainly supports the idea that many AVG P-40s would have had the silver and maroon blades, at least initially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glatisant Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Super P40 .Lovely finish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airjiml2 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 On 4/13/2019 at 9:17 AM, VMA131Marine said: This is the article I saw, thanks for digging it up. The instruction to paint the blades all black sometime after December 1941 certainly supports the idea that many AVG P-40s would have had the silver and maroon blades, at least initially. It is possible, but unlikely, if the AVG Hawks were indeed from RAF contracts. You will notice in factory photos that the US birds have natural metal and maroon props and the RAF birds have black with yellow tips. https://www.flickr.com/photos/35963591@N00/4128855799/in/album-72157622864527612/ Jim 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Beautiful Boyington Tiger ! Im planning on the same plane for the P-40 group build in the fall. Only mine will be in 1/48th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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