Silenoz Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Nice base, personally I'm not fond of this type of masking... edges always appear to sharp... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlemaster Posted May 6, 2019 Author Share Posted May 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Silenoz said: Nice base, personally I'm not fond of this type of masking... edges always appear to sharp... The edge of the masked area wont be the edge of finished green patch as this will be 1 -3 mm inside and done with my airbrush in almost mottle mode 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 20 minutes ago, Mottlemaster said: Rich i would have expected you to have one of these conversions in your stash or maybe two for some weird Ju388 Z wing conversion haha not quite, but I have the Ju-388J-3 (one with Jumo 213 engines) Nightfighter that is going to have the FuG-240 Berlin Radar fitted to it(the 1/48th Planet Model). A project that has sort of started but just waiting for some more time......as they all are. Interesting idea for the mottle, what do you use to remove the Tipex/Copydex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalker6Recon Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 7 hours ago, Mottlemaster said: edge of the Copydex Probably a stupid question, but what is copydex? Is that the same as white-out? I am sure I could find out via Google, but what's the fun in that? Since I have no clue what version you are making, nor can make sense of the teasers, I will just be happily surprised, even shocked as this develops! Anthony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlemaster Posted May 7, 2019 Author Share Posted May 7, 2019 On 06/05/2019 at 13:54, trickyrich said: Interesting idea for the mottle, what do you use to remove the Tipex/Copydex? Just a sharp cocktail stick to prise it up . 22 hours ago, Stalker6Recon said: but what is copydex? Is that the same as white-out? Copydex consists of latex dissolved in water. As such it is relatively non-toxic and so is frequently used in primary schools. It also contains ammonia to stabilise the rubber solution. This is the source of its characteristic smell. Copydex is (i recon ) better than masking fluid as its far cheaper and being in a tube rather than a bottle there is litle wastage , DO NOT USE TIPEX..... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlemaster Posted May 8, 2019 Author Share Posted May 8, 2019 With all the Copytex blobs dry and the delivery of the Mr hobby RLM 79 i have given a light coating over all the upper surface . P1030104 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr The original splinter is still visible with the hope that when i remove the masks tomorrow there will be little in the way of a step . made a rear view mirror from some sprue made the convex back by adding a smaall drop of 5 min epoxy and letting it slump to the edges . P1030105 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr P1030106 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 I didn't know that the "desert" camo was just sprayed over the original scheme. wow you could have some real fun with the weathering on her. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREG DESTEC Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Great progress Alistair 👍 I look forward to the masks coming off. Cheers Greg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlemaster Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 10 hours ago, trickyrich said: I didn't know that the "desert" camo was just sprayed over the original scheme. wow you could have some real fun with the weathering on her. Some aircraft were deliverd in desert camo which would often be olive green over sand , others moved from other theatre of operations with splinter scheme were over painted after arival in the field ,often not much care taken doing it . the Storch i am doing was over painted with its squigglein the field 3 hours ago, GREG DESTEC said: Great progress Alistair 👍 I look forward to the masks coming off. Cheers Greg I love takeing masks off Greg , it kind of brings things together . here are some pics with masks removed and one piainting session filling in with the sand . Recon it will take about 3 more paint sessions on the sand . P1030116 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr P1030115 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr P1030114 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr P1030113 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr couldnt resist unmasking the white nose aswell 🙂 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 looks fantastic and nice and patchy as well!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 (edited) What he said ⬆️👍 Edited May 9, 2019 by Corsairfoxfouruncle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREG DESTEC Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 On yes, I like that....I like it a lot 😎 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalker6Recon Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 15 hours ago, Mottlemaster said: I love takeing masks off Greg , it kind of brings things together . Looking at the results, no wonder you enjoy removing the masks, WOW, what an incredible effect! I am putting Copydex at the TOP of my "must have" list. I hope it works just as well with canopies. Thanks again, Anthony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Law Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I had to think for a minute when I first saw the de-masking photo. I asked myself why are the wings two different colours. Then I realized I was looking at a job half done. Then I thought why not just spray the green patches on. I suppose at this larger scale an over spray would be more obvious and more realistic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torbjorn Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Clever solution and a neat result - the sharp demarkation of the underlying paint is lovely. Have to make a mental note of the method. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlemaster Posted May 11, 2019 Author Share Posted May 11, 2019 21 hours ago, Greg Law said: I had to think for a minute when I first saw the de-masking photo. I asked myself why are the wings two different colours. Then I realized I was looking at a job half done. Then I thought why not just spray the green patches on. I suppose at this larger scale an over spray would be more obvious and more realistic. This is what i was after Greg. P1030122 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr 20 hours ago, Torbjorn said: Clever solution and a neat result - the sharp demarkation of the underlying paint is lovely. Have to make a mental note of the method. Now the over lying sand has been completed im very pleased how it turned out . You need to goever the edge when masking removed with a stiff brush to remove any loose paint . Now with a coat of gloss and decals on . Decals very thick and very sticky . P1030123 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr P1030124 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr P1030121 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr P1030120 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr P1030119 by Alistair Pearce, on Flickr Will apply some mat varnish tomorrow and get the bombs painted 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Law Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 That RLM79 come out well. I bought some yesterday for a future project. In the bottle it looks red Brown in hue. What do you think of it? My project will be the He 111H-6 torpedo bomber. I have I profile that makes it look more Sandy which is nice. More like dark yellow. I wonder if there are two different RLM79 colours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 WOW!! she looks fantastic with the decals on and I can now see the effect you were after, well done!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 On 5/11/2019 at 1:43 PM, Greg Law said: I wonder if there are two different RLM79 colours. Yes there are RLM79 Sandgelb and RLM79a Sandbraun. These are the old charts are from Cybermodeler. https://www.cybermodeler.com/color/rlm_table.shtml These are a listing of where to look. https://www.cybermodeler.com/color/rlm_matrix.shtml Here is Cybermodeler.coms master paint link. https://www.cybermodeler.com/resource6.shtml Hope these help ? Dennis 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Great desert camo Il need to find some copydex. I have nearly 50 sand and spinach a/c to do. This is perfection 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlemaster Posted May 14, 2019 Author Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Valkyrie said: Great desert camo Il need to find some copydex. I have nearly 50 sand and spinach a/c to do. This is perfection I get it from my local post office .I think a tube is £2-£3 and lasts for years as long as cap is screwed on tight 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalker6Recon Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 6 hours ago, Mottlemaster said: I get it from my local post offi So far I have "no joy" on finding copydex locally, so I may have to resort to ebay, sucks, but what else is there? I found a big bottle (500ml) that should last ten lifetimes, and the price with shipping isn't so ridiculous that I can't justify it, but it will have to wait, as other items are higher up the list at the moment, including a simple cutting mat. You would think that was easy to find, but no, I have had no luck locally so far. Every store has the same answer "no stocks sir", usually they run out of a product, and nobody tells the right person to order more. It takes years before they figure it out. Anywho, the camouflage looks great, but I kind of liked the splinter pattern as well, it was done so well, seems a shame to cover it up so much. But history is history, stay true to it or build sci-fi maybe. Cheers, Anthony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewy Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Mottlemaster indeed, that's turned out really well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 @Corsairfoxfouruncle those colour charts will do your head in!! There are sooo many interpretations of the actual colours, then if you factor in how scaling changes colour. Plus a lot of these are either based on colour/"colorised" photos or "museum" articles or even Black & White photo's and not to add the usual confusion of Luftwaffe colours in general...... Plus finally the RLM colours, though meant to be standard often varied almost from year to year ...... one giant . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenoz Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 let alone the +/- 10% deviation in color that is allowed for a color... And then they made their colors by diluting them with fuel and applying it to the vehicle of interest... Nice work on the camo, albeit a bit unsure of when to mask first and respray after removing the masks, seems like an extra step to me... but nonetheless looks good for sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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