Tupolev Tu-128 Fiddler info

[Sebastien]

Hi folks,

 

I'm looking for whatever documentation there is about Tupolev's monster interceptor.

I already have these:

 

 

 

I have the huge version of this plan:

 

 

Is there anything else worthwile (I'm looking for details...)?

 

Cheers,

 

S.

[Michou]

There is a Russian book to appear in March or April from Yauza Publishing Group.  I know nothing about it and I don't read Russian.  Is there anyone out there capable of translating the blurb on the back cover?

https://aviaforum.ru/threads/tu-128.14155/page-1614

 

Mike

 

[Sebastien]

Thanks Mike.

 

The blurb goes approximatively (loosely translated from a French translation):

In March/April, the Yauza publishing group should release a book about the Tu-128

The text presents the aircraft as a weapon system fitted with long range missiles unique in Soviet forces and without any equivalent.

Even today, its contribution to the country defense system stays poorly documented.

The missions it was designed for are very specific and were very important to the USSR. That is why it never was exported, flying its missions near the Northern borders of the USSR and in Southern Siberia.

Using declassified documents, technical descriptions, methodical work and the memories of the Tu-128 veterans, in the air or on the ground, the book recreates the complete history of the creation of a great interceptor, its early service days, its combat use and its interaction with AEW planes operated by PVO during Cold War times.

 

Hope my friend who translated the text from Russian will forgive me one day for this translation...

 

Cheers,

 

S.

[John R]

'Soviet Heavy Interceptors' by Yefim Gordon - Red Star #19 might be worth a look.

Somewhere in RFI on this site is General Melchett's Tu 128 which , if I remember, contains some background information about its operation and armament.

There is also a brief description of it in 'Tupolev - the man and his aircraft' by Duffy and Kandalov

John

[Michou]

Thanks for the translation Sebastien.  I read French but English is appreciated by the majority on the site.  May I ask where you found that "huge version" of the plan?

Your description of your location intrigues me.  Where is that?  Chez les ch'tis? 🙂

 

Mike

[Aardvark]

On 3/9/2019 at 1:02 PM, Sebastien said:

Tupolev's monster interceptor.

What is he a monster? Sizes? So YF-12A & XF-108 is more than it, and CF-105 is not much less.

😉😁

On 3/9/2019 at 1:02 PM, Sebastien said:

have these:

For the first time I see this. Is there something interesting? Who author this book?

Who author drawings in this book?

On 3/9/2019 at 10:31 PM, Michou said:

There is a Russian book to appear in March or April from Yauza Publishing Group.  

Who author this book? We read:

Correct answer - Sergey Burdin.

What author we see on cover this book:

Sergey Burdin?

Any questions?

On 3/9/2019 at 10:31 PM, Michou said:

https://aviaforum.ru/threads/tu-128.14155/page-1614

You really reading ALL 1615 ( One thousand six hundred  fifteen) pages of this topic?😲

You fit to assign the title of 

Hero of Socialist Labour:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero_of_Socialist_Labour

, comrade!

😁

On 3/9/2019 at 1:02 PM, Sebastien said:

Is there anything else worthwile (I'm looking for details...)?

Was 

Przeglad Konstrukcji Lotniczych 27 - Tu-128

but there is practically nothing interesting.

 

B.R.

Serge

[Aardvark]

13 minutes ago, Michou said:

May I ask where you found that "huge version" of the plan?

Where I am - here:

And there is an opinion that these drawings are inaccurate!

 

B.R.

Serge

[Sebastien]

Hi,

 

To be really honest, I found the huge version of the plan on the interweb (I think it was at aerofred.com). I printed it 2 A1 sheets...

I have put all my books in boxes before my move to a less insane part of France this summer, so I can't check the FAOW #166.

From what I remember, it's not very interesting.

And yes, the Fiddler was a monster interceptor. Because it actually went into operation, unlike the YF-12 and the XF-108.

 

Thanks for your help,

 

S.

 

[Aardvark]

4 hours ago, Sebastien said:

To be really honest, I found the huge version of the plan on the interweb (I think it was at aerofred.com). I printed it 2 A1 sheets...

Believe My, it's drawings from 

2- 1997 "Aviatciya i Vremya" ("Aviation & Time") magazine, I have one.

4 hours ago, Sebastien said:

Because it actually went into operation, unlike the YF-12 and the XF-108.

I have and YF-12, 

and  XF-108, and Tu-128.... and  CF-105, therefore, judging by their size, and not by who was lucky with the service and who does not.

About lucky & service, in reality, Tu-128 role for 7 years earlier was to be performed by the La-250, which turned out to be too innovative, in addition, the La-250 appeared during the period when Khrushchev believed that the planes were outdated and the future was behind the missiles, however this was then a general trend. In addition, due to the fact that Lavochkin died, the La-250 was simply no one to bring to mind.

Interestingly, the MiG-31 subsequently closed the way to the further development and modernization of the Tu-128. And the Su-30 tried to oust the MiG-31.

But on paper there were more monstrous plans, such as interceptor version Sukhoj T-4P (Sotka) and Tupolev Tu-160P.

But it seems they decided to make a new interceptor to replace the MiG-31.

Corporate wars it such  corporate wars...

 

B.R.

Serge

 

[John R]

Three of the big boys. Actually perspective makes the picture deceptive because the Tu 128 is the biggest.

 

John

[Aardvark]

32 minutes ago, John R said:

Three of the big boys. Actually perspective makes the picture deceptive because the Tu 128 is the biggest.

 



John

John, this combination is undeniable! Tu-128 in her favorite! But with YF-12 and XF-108 the situation will be different!

 

B.R.

Serge

 

P.S. You CF-105 first edition?

P.P.S. Grey version La-250 as for my more interesting, but he without number and have strange insignia ( or bad over painted grey or this bad fotage)