Homebee Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) Dragon is to re-release soon its 1/72nd Nortxhrop/McDonnell Douglas YF-23 Black Widow II kit (link 1 & link 2) - ref. 2507 Source: https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10594440 Box art 8 V.P. Edited February 24, 2019 by Homebee 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vultures1 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Cool!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvrle Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 So how does this one stack up to the Italeri, and which one is more accurate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertone139 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Italeri all the way for accuracy (and the accessible weapons bay). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerbannog Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 19 hours ago, Robertone139 said: Italeri all the way for accuracy (and the accessible weapons bay). I always thought they were the same molds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general melchett Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 They are two separate kits, with the Italeri offering being generally accepted as the more accurate kit. 1/72nd YF-23 differences 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vultures1 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 10 hours ago, general melchett said: They are two separate kits, with the Italeri offering being generally accepted as the more accurate kit. 1/72nd YF-23 differences Ah, so maybe not quite so cool after all ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sroubos Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Italeri kit is much sought after is it not? I think I may still have one. YF-23 should have won. Much sexier aircraft than the 22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoops Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Italeri is the better kit, which was reboxed by Tamiya and Testors for their respective markets. The Dragon kit is a very different mold with less accurate shapes. That is not say that the Italeri kit is great, but it is much closer. There used to be a good visual description on the YF-23.net website, but it seems to have finally died. It had not been updated in years and a lot of image links were broken. Even the internet Wayback Machine hasn't captured the images. Here is the write up, however: " Italeri was the first company in the world to release a scale model of the YF-23. Considering the lack of information at the time, it was not a bad effort. It was not up to the standard of Hasegawa, it did not have recessed panel lines, but nevertheless it was a start. The tooling actually depicted PAV-1 only; no separate parts were included for PAV-2's distinctive trough and shroud. The decals included markings for PAV-2 nevertheless, but they were pretty basic and not comprehensive enough to do a good job. The kit was then picked up by Testors (nos 657 and 0191) as they had an existing relationship with Italeri. Revell then reissued this tooling some years later (no 4326), followed by Tamiya. It is dimensionally accurate, but will need some refinement to make an accurate model. The really frustrating thing was that none of the decal sheets that came with any release were accurate nor complete. Each one was either missing something or was printed in the wrong colour or shape. Caracal Models have now remedied that problem with a new decal sheet dedicated to the YF-23." "Dragon also released a kit of the YF-23 which was a different tooling, but it had some serious contour innaccuracies and is not worth bothering with. It should be considered as no more than a toy. A picture of the Dragon tooling is included here so that the modeller can learn the difference between the two." I have the Italeri tooling with plans to fix and accurize it eventually. I would like to display next to a Hasegawa F-20 as both very beautiful Northrop prototypes, too many kits and too little time though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 On 2/24/2019 at 10:44 PM, cvrle said: which one is more accurate? No one. I have both models. Yes, Italeri close to real YF-23 then Dragon, but not much. Most big problem both models wrong sections. Theoretical sections factory drawings have in Internet therefore, anyone who has any of these models can verify this for himself. New tool YF-23 it's real need! B.R. Serge 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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