fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 10 hours ago, Courageous said: without working lights...poor show . So much excellent work going into this and will be a pity when she gets closed up. Stuart 9 hours ago, stevehnz said: Looking fantastic, shame to hide all that, but we'll all know whats there. Steve. 8 hours ago, Marklo said: Really beautiful work. The classic modelers dilemma, how much detail to put in when it may or may not be seen in the finished build. Well, two doors and two cargo hatches will be open, plus the two emergency exits on the fuselage. Something is going to be seen. The sandwiches for the tea on the pantry will remain hidden, I am afraid. 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stromness Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Moa said: Well, two doors and two cargo hatches will be open, plus the two emergency exits on the fuselage. Something is going to be seen. The sandwiches for the tea on the pantry will remain hidden, I am afraid. That‘s good! Nothing more depressing on a model to view than cucumber sandwiches slowly wilting away over the years...... Edited May 16, 2019 by Stromness 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 31 minutes ago, Stromness said: That‘s good! Nothing more depressing on a model to view than cucumber sandwiches slowly wilting away over the years...... And what about those nice 1/72 bottles of Scotch aging nicely that will remain inaccessible? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stromness Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Just now, Moa said: And what about those nice 1/72 bottles of Scotch aging nicely that will remain inaccessible? Tragedy - plain and simple. Sophokleian. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 Hum...did I forget something?...yes, the curtains. These were just a very translucent sort of lace, perhaps white, very light in any case. To the board now, lets take some measures and get at it. Internal masks removed first: 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wlad Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Looking great Moa. It almost seems fitting to add some carriage lights outside the entry doors, not that the original had them. It is such an odd design to my eyes, yet I've seen footage of it flying sedately and then executing the most inspiring three point landing I've ever seen. Cheers, Wlad 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, Wlad said: Looking great Moa. It almost seems fitting to add some carriage lights outside the entry doors, not that the original had them. It is such an odd design to my eyes, yet I've seen footage of it flying sedately and then executing the most inspiring three point landing I've ever seen. Cheers, Wlad That's the prototype still with the diagonal strut closer to the wing tip area, no mudguards, the external artificial horizon on the nose, and the gap between the central and outer panels on the top wing unfaired. I think I posted the same link a few pages back on the build. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Superb work on this Moa. The internal detail is incredible. Will there be passengers lurking around I wonder? Terry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonners Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 10 hours ago, Wlad said: Looking great Moa. It almost seems fitting to add some carriage lights outside the entry doors, not that the original had them. It is such an odd design to my eyes, yet I've seen footage of it flying sedately and then executing the most inspiring three point landing I've ever seen. Fantastic clip there, Wlad. What an amazing sight and sound! And as for the old-school ‘received pronunciation’, well... The aircraft in the clip has an unusual framework ahead of the cockpit, clearly visible as it taxies out. Any ideas? Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Jones Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Jonners said: The aircraft in the clip has an unusual framework ahead of the cockpit, clearly visible as it taxies out. Any ideas? Jon De- icing rig ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 7 hours ago, Terry1954 said: Superb work on this Moa. The internal detail is incredible. Will there be passengers lurking around I wonder? Terry I am tempted by the idea of providing the access ladders, or even that long boarding sleeve used to shield the passenger from the propwash of those four engines. We'll see. The model naturally is taking a lot of time, may be I will have some steam left for that. I sometimes use figures just for the photos in order to provide scale, but deem figures permanently attached to the model on a diorama a bit unrealistic. Matter of personal preference, of course. 2 hours ago, Jonners said: The aircraft in the clip has an unusual framework ahead of the cockpit, clearly visible as it taxies out. Any ideas? Jon If you see my comment to the clip above you will find the answer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, Andrew Jones said: De- icing rig ? Nope, read my reply to the original post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I think a figure to add scale would be wise in this instance, just to show how huge these machines were for the era. I usually add some sort of figure to my builds, sometimes an Earthling, but occasionally a cat. I like cats. 🐱 Martian 👽 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 29 minutes ago, Martian Hale said: I think a figure to add scale would be wise in this instance, just to show how huge these machines were for the era. I usually add some sort of figure to my builds, sometimes an Earthling, but occasionally a cat. I like cats. 🐱 Martian 👽 I add them temporarily, only in a few photos, as you may see in previous models. I have added dogs, which are far more obedient and stay still for the snapshot, while cats tend to wander. In this one a dog misbehaved and cocked the leg, the basterd: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev67 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 You are doing a great job, can't wait to see it finished, how are you going to do the windows, clear acetate may be 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, kev67 said: You are doing a great job, can't wait to see it finished, how are you going to do the windows, clear acetate may be If you go back you will see how the windows are already there (masked now) and how it was all made. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Martian Hale said: . I like cats. 🐱 Martian 👽 How do you like them? Fried, roasted or boiled? Asking for a friend. Chris 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonners Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 18 hours ago, Moa said: That's the prototype still with...the external artificial horizon on the nose Ah, sorry - missed that. An external artificial horizon? Or an external framework for visual attitude reference against the horizon, as the aircraft nose would not be visible to the pilots? I would have thought the latter to assist with setting flight attitudes in a new prototype. I imagine it would have had a turn-and-slip indicator on the instrument panel in the days before widely-fitted vacuum-driven artificial horizons. Intriguing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 The cockpit glazing is added: 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busnproplinerfan Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Could just imagine someone making that into an RV or bus. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 54 minutes ago, Jonners said: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busnproplinerfan Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 that things huge, even by todays standards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonners Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 Great photo, Moa. Definitely looks to me like an 'aircraft horizontal' reference. Useful in turns, especially with windscreen that slope at the bottom, but particularly for referencing pitch attitudes at various speed/power settings. An engine failure in a HP42 could produce a pitch asymmetry as well as a yaw asymmetry, so I imagine the reference bar would be useful when testing that aspect too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 A future build Moa? Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 18, 2019 Author Share Posted May 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Courageous said: A future build Moa? Stuart Stuart, i think a modeler can only once in a lifetime tackle this beast. i just closed the fuselage and it was a titanic endeavor. I still have a long road ahead, and when completed, i foresee no second HP42 in my modeling horizon ever, whatsoever, at all. A dornier DOX, on the other hand...😆 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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