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43 minutes ago, JWM said:

 

I did fast googling for WWII Soviet machines from Murmansk area, some results

 

I love the LaGG 3 in the profile. There are some superb photographs of this very machine on the internet. I believe that I may have a 1/72 AML transfer set with the cat in it. The aircraft changed appearance a few times, but as a really big fan of the Soviet ‘Varnished Flying Coffin’; I really adore this one. :inlove:.

 

Maybe ICM released it once in 1/48?

 

All these profiles are really top notch stuff. Much fun to be had with white distemper camouflage.

 

AZ did a nice Rebox of the Valom Hampden with transparencies that fitted, Airfix’s Hampden is a nice subject for nostalgia with an I teerst img twist here.

 

That very Tomahawk used to be the subject of an Eastern European rebox of the FROG kit. I didn’t agree with one reviewer that said it was beyond redemption. It was very low priced and with a little elbow grease (and a few of my wife’s nail files), a scratch built cockpit with an cheap AM seat and wheels; it’s fine. 
 

Also the Airfix kit doesn’t break the bank and is a lovely little kit. I chopped mine up to make an improved P-36, mating it to a Smer kit. Then AZ released P-36, but as far as I know, have not yet released the P-36 variant I am looking for. I may be wrong. One of the Norwegian variants with different cowl/engine. If I remember correctly, Norway ended up with two variants at least; the story is rather a saga in places itself.

 

I digress. Murmansk and Arkangel are more or less the places that began my whole fascination with the Arctic then Antarctic regions 👍

Thank you for those J-W

 

Tony❄️T


 

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1 hour ago, The Spadgent said:

Thanks for the invite @TonyTiger66
When will this start?

I’ll need to get a kit. 
I was thinking of this.

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It’s The Bell 206 Flown by MacReady in the thing. 🥶

 

Johnny.

Oooooooo!!! There’s also the Norwegian helicopter at the beginning of the film.

David Cronenburg at his best!
 

Well now Mr Spadgent you have thrown me a curve ball here.

 

A movie, based on a 1938 Novella (Who Goes There), that is set in Antarctica.

 

The subject matter is perhaps more pertinent now than it has ever been, if considered even simply in terms of the possible effects of rapidly spreading viruses, of covert warfare, of invasion by non traditional means.

 

The 1982 movie was shot, however, mainly in Alaska, very close to the Arctic circle (approx 570km), some parts in a set in LA.

 

This is one of my favourite movies of all time and has some of the best ‘dark humour‘ one liners I have ever heard.

 

something like;

”I don’t know what that thing is in there, but it’s wierd and p......d off!” Said absolutely dead pan is one of my favourites, as is the unrepeatable on this family show line about wishing to be untied from a sofa 🛋 🧟‍♂️ 👨‍🏭 🔥 😂 !!

 

If I didn’t allow this in, I couldn’t allow anything in from ‘Ice Station Zebra’ could I? 
 

In terms of ‘when’ Johnny, we have just reached enlightenment to make the ‘vote’ stage, but that is not until November, so the answer as far as I know is ‘if at all; quite a long time in the future’; in 2021.’

 

I do not believe that I discounted Arctic and Antarctic movie based subjects? Did I, anyone?”

 

One main intention was to try to adhere to @Enzo Matrix‘s advice, some years ago now, to try to suggest Group Builds that we’re as inclusive of all aspects, variations of our hobby. As possible.

 

Hence in my original introduction; I admitted that my idea was not fully formed (rather like my brain, even though I am way over 50 🧠 👀) and that I was open to suggestions:

 

“I’m open to all (polite) suggestions, this idea certainly isn’t fully formed. If anyone would be interested in co-hosting, that would be most welcome!“

TonyTiger; 21st Feb 2019.

 

@Pin suggested material from a fact based movie. I then watched it and the answer was a resounding ‘yes’.

 

’The Thing’ is based on a work of fiction, but one that takes place and is wholly reliant upon real equipment, real living conditions, and real paranoia due to something that would create real reactions like that, in that environment.

 

I’m a little tempted to build an H.P. Lovecraft story inspired Dornier Merkur (possibly Planet Models) myself.

 

Has to be a yes.

 

The X Files episodes that are a nod to this movie; if anyone wants to build/model something from those; let’s talk about it 😊.
 

I have flown over the Arctic, right over the North Pole, many years ago. Montreal to somewhere in the UK on a commercial aircraft that had already had to make one emergency landing and I expected another at any time. That was my only caveat.

 

Russian nuclear icebreakers are specialist craft developed to traverse the at tic region for fairly non conventional means.

 

They don’t really cater for passengers like me; eating buns and sipping tea in a comfortable aluminium tube 5 or so miles up on my way to a meeting about a property redevelopment proposal in Toronto. That was my only caveat really, that the latter wasn’t in the spirit of the GB I was hoping *we* could create.

 

’The Thing’ is absolutely in the spirit of it, as are, however potentially bonkers or questionably conceived, comfortable aluminium tube flights with champagne and buns; solely intended for Antarctic tourism, as I believe we have discussed somewhere in the thread. 
 

Yes. 👍
 

Models of anything from Movies/TV/stories where the Arctic or Antarctic play a bit part and are not an absolutely essential component  main theme; no. I did say that models of Polar Bears were fine. We may only be able to find them in Zoos or Scavenging for food in Northern urban areas soon, but they’re still eligible. Puffins are endangered; as many know, I adore them, and Penguins. Please anyone go ahead and make models of them. Arctic Wolves too.

 

Airfix did the blue tits. A ‘least concern’ listed bird in terms of  the IUCN red list. It might not always be that way. 
 

I have digressed again but just emphasising the point; diversity 👍

 

Can we plop you on the list Johnny?

Be great to have you along

Best regards

TonyT

 

edit: Our messages crossed. Thank you John, you’re in 👍

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https://www.forces.net/news/rare-spitfire-lost-norwegian-mountains-fly-again
 

I must write to Mr @Beard very soon regarding a very kind message that he left for me some weeks ago.

 

I will; it has only been delayed for the reasons outlined above. Meanwhile; thank you Mr. Beard for the warm welcome home and kind words; I hope that you are doing ok 👍 🤝.

 

I did not know about this Spitfire until recently. Moreover, I did not know that they flew so far north, in cases like this, unarmed.

 

There is every possibility that you have built it already, but any information on these aircraft, their pilots and good reference books is most welcome. 
 

Brave men indeed.

Best regards

TonyT

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This GB could even include WWII Luftwaffe. JG5 operated from Petsamo in what was then Finland (today's Pechenga in Russia) - Between Kirkenes and Murmansk.

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8 hours ago, TonyTiger66 said:

PS: Are you on board @JWM

Please, consider me "in" -  this LaGG 3 from Murmansk is the minimal option :) if I will not found anything more sexy...

Cheers

J-W

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8 hours ago, TonyTiger66 said:

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Oooooooo!!! There’s also the Norwegian helicopter at the beginning of the film.

David Cronenburg at his best!
 

Well now Mr Spadgent you have thrown me a curve ball here.

 

 

Thank you @TonyTiger66. Glad you like the idea. 🥶🥰❤️ It’s one of my favorite films also. I adore David Cronenberg but this one is Directed by the sublime John Carpenter in his prime. Sorry to correct you but hey it’s all good right.

both the Norwegian and American Helicopters are a Bell 206 Jet ranger. 
I managed to get The italari one last night. 
lots of work to be done. 🙌

2021??? Blimey. 🤩

 

Thanksfor letting me join though. I’m honoured. ❤️
 

Johnny. “It’s a Thing, thing.”

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I might have something for this when the time comes. 

I've got a Monogram Ford Trimotor which includes a sled, 3 huskies and 2 copiously dressed operatives. 

AND the Northop Gamma kit has decals for the "Elsworth Trans Antarctic Flight". 

Consider my hat to be in the ring!! 

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19 minutes ago, Robert Stuart said:

Could be.  Where was it based Pat?

There is a snag with that apparently simple question

 

1. Where is the blooming kit ?

 

I'll google it and see what comes up, otherwise aftermarket decals might provide the answer 

 

cheers Pat 

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http://www.modellmarine.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4860:dornier-do-j-wal-im-dornier-museum&catid=334:marinefliegerx

Hope this link is live 👆

Apparently two Dornier Wal flying boats had a bit of an adventure heading for the North Pole, led by Amundsen! 

I was just doing a bit of research as I've ended up with a Huma Do JII kit, and there it was!! 

Fascinating lineage of machines indeed. 

Transatlantic mail, world records, epic sea-worthiness, and licensed production in Italy, Spain, Holland and Japan. 

And a heroic attempt into the Arctic. 

 

Oh yeah apparently the military used some, somewhere.... 

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Im totally in for this GB.

I have Soviet aircraft with skis to build.

An IL-2, Laag-3, and maybe a P-40.  Now just have to source decals from aircraft that operated in murmansk and arkangelsk.

Can "What Ifs" be allowed to a degree?  As in the chance of the aircraft operating in the theatre were known but having markings that may not be 100% accurate to history( due to no existing proof but probability)

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On 2/4/2020 at 1:02 PM, JOCKNEY said:

1. Where is the blooming kit ?

Pate, here you have review (in Polish, but with google translator you will manage) - and photos of parts of a kit. The reviewer gave 4 in scale 0 to 6.

https://modelistc.blogspot.com/2017/10/recenzja-jakowlew-jak-6lnb-172.html

But I was not able to find any scheme from north... :(

Cheers

J-W

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, JOCKNEY said:

so how about a P-38 Lightning ?

Well, that'd be cool...... 😄⚠️

 

You can certainly do Glacier Girl OOB. Somebody has issued a kit, I can't quite remember who. Was it Academy?? 

I'll have a look. 

Was it far enough north? I guess so. Buried under that amount of ice and snow for that long must surely qualify! 

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17 hours ago, JOCKNEY said:

I've been doing a bit of thinking outside the box, so how about a P-38 Lightning ?

 

 Before you think I've lost the plot completely read this

 

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/wreck-wwii-fighter-plane-will-be-unearthed-from-greenland-glacier-180970141/

 

cheers Pat 

 

That would be a yes Pat

@rob Lyttle and @Corsairfoxfouruncle had a good suggestion.

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Bit of a stumbling block i hadn't appreciated the kit is 1/48.

 

Can i ask a daft question 

 

Where can a list of eligible aircraft be found ?

 

The stash is a nightmare already, it would be great to use something i already have !

 

cheers Pat 

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